From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Oct 16 03:53:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA04651 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 03:53:24 -0700 Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA04646 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 03:53:22 -0700 Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0t4n9Y-0003wOC; Mon, 16 Oct 95 03:52 PDT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00415; Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:52:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) cc: bde@zeta.org.au, hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, kaleb@x.org Subject: Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:23:35 +0300." Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 11:52:29 +0100 Message-ID: <413.813840749@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In message <214.813831228@critter.tfs.com> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > >> >Yes, bloat is added even when ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE isn't set. Bloat is > >> >added even when no ctype function is called (this is normal for most > >> >programs in /bin and /sbin - grep shows "ctype.h" in only 25 out of 80 > >> >programs in /usr/src/[s]bin. > >> > >> It isn't accurate results. Many libc functions calls ctype > >> indirecly, i.e. strtol, atoi, etc. You additionly need > >> to grep ctype through libc and then grep function you got > >> through bin/sbin. I suspect that 100% of programs use ctype > >> for accurate results. > > >Andrey, you have to realize that Bruce reported precise numbers, whereas > >you just "suspect". Please prove you point, and provide hard numbers. > > Well, here more accurate results. > > I build/install special crt0.o version which not calls reduced_setlocale() > bloat. > Then I rebuild bin/sbin. Then I use following csh script to find ones > which not use ctype at all: Did you rebuild static or dynamic ? I will only belive numbers from a static rebuild... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. It will be some time yet before progress goes too far... (Poul Henningsen)