From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 21 15:20:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED76EA1BA4D for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@xtaz.co.uk) Received: from mail.xtaz.uk (tao.xtaz.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:202::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B48C43B1 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@xtaz.co.uk) Received: by mail.xtaz.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2707920AEEC2; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:20:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:20:15 +0100 From: Matt Smith To: Julien Cigar Cc: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20151021152015.GF90075@xtaz.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Smith , Julien Cigar , FreeBSD Questions References: <867fmh12nq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86pp081glq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20151021143525.GX87605@mordor.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151021143525.GX87605@mordor.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 15:20:20 -0000 On Oct 21 16:35, Julien Cigar wrote: >The main advantage of SU+J over SU is to avoid a fsck at boot if the FS >is not clean. Note that SU+J almost never worked for me and disabling >SU+J (tunefs -j disable) is the first thing I do after an installation. Agreed. I don't understand why this mode has been made the default. SU always works fine for me but SU+J always causes corrupted filesystems which it never bothers to fix either in the background or the foreground. I have to disable the journal and manually fsck it to get a clean filesystem once again. Seems completely flawed. -- Matt