From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 16:18:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66D3437B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 44776 invoked by uid 100); 7 Mar 2001 00:18:19 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.32331.61713.830461@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:18:19 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Meyer , Rahul Siddharthan , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306164606.046d4100@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010306131533.046dfc60@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306122244.04477f00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010305134937.K80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306164606.046d4100@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 01:33 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >Ethics - or lack thereof - are a mudslingers favorite target. > I see: It follows, then, that if I point out unethical behavior, > I am mudslinging? Bzzzt.... Sorry, non sequitur. Yes, going from arbitrary claims that someone unethical to claiming to point out unethical action is indeed a non sequitor. I'm surprised you pointed out your own illogical behavior, though. > > Saying that someone is acting out of hatred and malice in an era > when hate crimes draw special punishments is mud-slinging of the > vilest sort. > Again, non sequitur. My reports of Stallman's attitudes and > behavior are factually correct and verifiable by many sources. > Richard Stallman has expressed his hatred and malice against > anyone who profits from creative work -- in particular, from > writing and selling software -- in many forums, and these traits > have likewise been documented by many independent sources. Your grasp of English seems to rival that of Alanis Morissette. Claiming that actions are taken out of hate is mudslinging, pure and simple. If your claims happen to be true, then you aren't guilty of libel, but are still guilty of mudslinging. The bottom line is that every time I've seen you enter into such a debate, you inevitably wind up attacking Stallman. Resorting to attacking the proponents of an idea is always an indication that the attacker no longer has no way to attack the idea. Which is a fact you have yet to deal with. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message