From nobody Sun May 30 21:49:01 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-arm@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9590BF294A for ; Sun, 30 May 2021 21:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (mailhost.m5p.com [74.104.188.4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "m5p.com", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FtXBH5PFLz4Z7M for ; Sun, 30 May 2021 21:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff::26] (court.m5p.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:15ff:0:0:0:26]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 14ULn1Db016578 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 30 May 2021 17:49:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" From: George Mitchell Subject: Oversimplification Message-ID: <35728cba-0152-9b73-77f9-48683e870bbd@m5p.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 2021 17:49:01 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arm List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VjKQKwcGi5tItt58aY56KqL0z4B4HVMjG" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=10.0 tests=HELO_MISC_IP,HELO_NO_DOMAIN autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5 (2021-03-20) on mattapan.m5p.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FtXBH5PFLz4Z7M X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of george@m5p.com designates 74.104.188.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=george@m5p.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[74.104.188.4:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:701, ipnet:74.104.0.0/16, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[m5p.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[74.104.188.4:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --VjKQKwcGi5tItt58aY56KqL0z4B4HVMjG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="xQhUCfsdlOTOfRzgY7aoFYSVPIYIdU3vL"; protected-headers="v1" From: George Mitchell To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <35728cba-0152-9b73-77f9-48683e870bbd@m5p.com> Subject: Oversimplification --xQhUCfsdlOTOfRzgY7aoFYSVPIYIdU3vL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've never been shy about oversimplifying complex questions, so here goes: What's the ARM system that presents the least hassle to a prospective FreeBSD user? Here's what I mean by low hassle: 1. Widely available. 2. Runs some standard FreeBSD image with minimal (or no) tweaking. 3. I suspect ARM64 means less hassle than ARM32. 4. Friendly to an external high-speed (at least USB 3; possibly SATA?) disk. 5. Hopefully 8GB on-board memory, though 4GB is probably okay if high speed swapping is available (see point 4). 6. Affordable, but not cheap. 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