From nobody Fri Apr 24 22:53:04 2026 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4g2St43CGPz6bRqX; Fri, 24 Apr 2026 22:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Received: from smtpo75.interia.pl (smtpo75.interia.pl [217.74.67.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4g2St404wQz3nhg; Fri, 24 Apr 2026 22:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vermaden@interia.pl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2026 00:53:04 +0200 From: vermaden Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd To: Charles Sprickman , Anton Shterenlikht Cc: Mark Millard , "stable@freebsd.org" , "pkgbase@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: interia.pl/pf09 In-Reply-To: <5019E502-8951-40E0-881C-9E08B3732308@bway.net> References: <3847a70c-f2d8-4c4a-a5f0-56a4a90168b0@yahoo.com> <700c882a-ae24-403a-a8e0-5ceffed569ae@yahoo.com> <5019E502-8951-40E0-881C-9E08B3732308@bway.net> X-Originating-IP: 45.148.42.24 Message-Id: List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=interia.pl; s=dk; t=1777071188; bh=mJ5hRV/wmxJa/XmGg2OWg9iTc5Gc3+FGUg34elP4KfY=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:Message-Id:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jfaEJSGdgXUID4SWRNyC/NvU+ATA1d478Es93BiSvAD7uvYyzJ4SoHly863q44CJh uPPu/nGsNN9lm/rn9kxI82RNNyy91myA1lg9JDMHe4JulQA37G/uBxF4JBSxEqu6m6 4iClAgzLg/ZZO9+r9TYGgkmpQDtDy/lmzkR4YoGE= X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16138, ipnet:217.74.64.0/22, country:PL] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4g2St404wQz3nhg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Temat: Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd Data: 2026-04-24 19:06 Nadawca: "Charles Sprickman" Adresat: "Anton Shterenlikht" ; DW: "Mark Millard" ; stable@freebsd.org; pkgbase@freebsd.org; > Where is the definitive documentation for pkgbase, > conversion to same, and I guess really a general overview > of what it is and "why"? > > I generally have found the wiki to be out-of-date or just > generally "unofficial" and the place one would go looking > for information on something new before it's been released, > things that are of interest to developers but not necessarily > users... but with pkgbase in 15.x now, I kind of assumed > we'd have a handbook chapter, or at least entries for > converting and updating in the "EXAMPLES" section of the > pkg man page. This is kind of reminds me of BE's and how > they just sort of became automatic with "freebsd-update" > on ZFS systems and, while it's an excellent feature, I never > found a good "how and why" doc on that either. > > On documentation in general, I am perhaps a weirdo about > this, but many times I can't quite wrap my head around > something until I have the "why" of it - then things generally > fall into place really quickly for me... > > Charles About PKGBASE here You can find some 'external' documentation: - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/10/20/brave-new-pkgbase-world/ - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/07/20/freebsd-pkgbase-pkgbasify-tool/ - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2023/12/09/personal-freebsd-pkgbase-update-server/ About that ZFS Boot Environments ... here is some additional 'external' documentation from mine as well - hope that helps. - https://is.gd/BECTL - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/11/25/zfs-boot-environments-explained/ - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2022/03/14/zfs-boot-environments-revolutions/ - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2021/02/23/upgrade-freebsd-with-zfs-boot-environments/ - https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2021/10/19/other-freebsd-version-in-zfs-boot-environment/ Regards, vermaden