From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 19 05:58:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B8916A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0BE43D46 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 05:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hBJDwe6T047787; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:58:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3FE30408.1000204@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 07:58:32 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ken Smith References: <000901c3c635$3eb40f60$2e01a8c0@jose> <20031219134910.GC5502@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> In-Reply-To: <20031219134910.GC5502@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A question about a word "userland" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:58:43 -0000 Ken Smith wrote: >On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 09:37:28PM +0800, Jose Liang wrote: > > > >>That is about this word: userland. Well, because my English is not vary >>well, so I translate this document by some tools sometimes, but there are no >>any word about "userland". I tried to find a solution to solve this problem, >>but I didn't get any effective answer. I guess this word means "system >>environment that user's set up", Just guess! Am I wrong? Could anybody tell >>me? If I'm wrong, plese tell me what it means after all. >> >> > >"userland" would be the pieces of FreeBSD that are not inside of the >kernel. Changes to a device driver would be things that are inside >the kernel. If the mv(1) command changed that would be a userland >change. > >Does that help? > Would a good "rule of thumb" be - if you have to rebuild the kernel after changes for it to be useful, it's not userland, everything else IS userland? Just curious.. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology All generalizations are false, including this one. ------------------------------------------------------------------