From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 27 18:48:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from HAL9000.wox.org (as3-4-69.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809EB37B41D; Mon, 27 May 2002 18:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.wox.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g4S1mH701564; Mon, 27 May 2002 18:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from das) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 18:48:17 -0700 From: David Schultz To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Language in danger: Language loss Message-ID: <20020527184817.A1485@HAL9000.wox.org> Mail-Followup-To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Giorgos Keramidas , chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3CF17486.F06F3E6A@mindspring.com> <20020527005647.A50028@FreeBSD.org> <3CF1CD8C.C3262181@mindspring.com> <20020527014353.B1951@HAL9000.wox.org> <20020528091410.G29491@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020528001001.GA20175@hades.hell.gr> <20020528095208.A16567@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020527175613.A1214@HAL9000.wox.org> <20020528102802.K16567@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20020528102802.K16567@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:28:02AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Greg 'groggy' Lehey : > >> Ah, you mean Gödel, not Godel. > > > > Yes. I don't use umlauts often enough outside of TeX to bother to > > figure out an easy way to enter them on my keyboard. Besides, > > extended ASCII characters get mangled somewhere on the way from mutt > > to Emacs, and the last time I tried to debug a misfeature in Emacs it > > took me two days. > > Hmm, it works fine for me. > > Anyway, there's an alternative: put an e after the non-umlauted > letter, like the others have done. Just replacing it with a different > letter is wrong. Forgive my ignorance of diacritical marks; I'm just a stupid American. Actually, English has dropped the marks from a number of German words. Names like Gödel are not among them, but English still does far better than languages that insist that all foreign words must be spelled phoenetically. By the way, Google turns up more results, the first few of which are better, if you search for `Godel' instead of `Goedel', contrary to what Giorgos implied. There be lots of us dumb Americans out there. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message