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Date:      Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:25:32 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Removal of the 6.x kernel compat code from libc
Message-ID:  <F9A778D2-1E22-4536-80F4-A01FDE85D78F@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <2754569.tvBmmIXdDx@overcee.wemm.org>
References:  <20150417075942.GI2390@kib.kiev.ua> <5531059F.4060500@freebsd.org> <14081053.n6WdaDRXXc@ralph.baldwin.cx> <2754569.tvBmmIXdDx@overcee.wemm.org>

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> On Apr 17, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Friday, April 17, 2015 09:28:24 AM John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Friday, April 17, 2015 03:07:43 PM Stefan Esser wrote:
>>> Could we get rid of check_utility_compat(3) on that occasion?
>>>=20
>>> It is only used (AFAIK) to select FreeBSD-4 compatible behaviour of
>>> expr(1), which can also be selected with option "-e" and env =
variable
>>> COMPAT_EXPR.
>>>=20
>>> I doubt that anybody relies on non-POSIX behaviour that has been
>>> deprecated for some 15 years ...
>>>=20
>>> We'll need to preserve a stub function for check_utility_compat(3),
>>> I'm afraid, but I think we can remove the environment variable and
>>> the actual checking for a sym-link named =
"/etc/compat-FreeBSD-4-util"
>>> at startup of expr. (I bet, nobody even knew that the behaviour of
>>> expr could be changed with above sym-link ...)
>>>=20
>>> If there is consensus, I could prepare a patch to remove the check
>>> and to update the man-page for expr (just for -CURRENT, no MFC).
>>=20
>> I would not be surprised if Y!BSD depends on this and uses it in 11 =
FWIW. :)
>=20
> I'm sorry to say, but yes.  We do actually us this on 10.x and 11.x at =
work,
> although it's worse than you can imagine.  I just did a quick diff and =
I see:
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D //depot/vendor/FreeBSD/stable/10/bin/expr/expr.y#2 =
(text+ko) -
> //depot/yahoo/ybsd_10/src/bin/expr/expr.y#3 (text+ko) =3D=3D=3D=3D =
content
> @@ -270,6 +270,8 @@
>        int c;
>=20
>        setlocale(LC_ALL, "");
> +       if (getenv("NO_EXPR_COMPAT") =3D=3D NULL)
> +               setenv("EXPR_COMPAT", "1", 1);
>        if (getenv("EXPR_COMPAT") !=3D NULL
>            || check_utility_compat("expr")) {
>                av =3D argv + 1;
>=20
> I'm not going to do an annotate to see who did that..  However, we can
> maintain patches locally if needed.
>=20
> I'm not even sure *why* its there.  I might have removed the code that
> depended on it.  Let me do some research.  With a bit of luck, it =
might be
> academic for us now.

For some reason, I=E2=80=99m happier you said you were using the expr =
hack rather
than running new libc on ancient kernels=E2=80=A6 Both fill me with =
horror, but I guess
the expr one is less horrific somehow...

Warner


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