From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 03:27:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9214016A4CE; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C2F43D45; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC83C2BD5A; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:27:18 +1100 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E35851211; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:16 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:57:16 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20040111112716.GO7617@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <40007D14.6090205@freebsd.org> <3180.1073776377@critter.freebsd.dk> <20040111051649.GK7617@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20040111120824.00cb6314@Magellan.Leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrLUmiMCPBhU8YVX" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040111120824.00cb6314@Magellan.Leidinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of RAIDFrame and Vinum (was: Future of RAIDFrame) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:27:23 -0000 --lrLUmiMCPBhU8YVX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 11 January 2004 at 12:08:24 +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:46:49 +1030 > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: >> [missing attribution to phk] >>> I'd say lets kick them both into perforce and let whoever wants >>> their hands have a go at them. >> >> For some definition of perforce, I'm all for it. Note that there's >> also an OS-independent mailing list (see >> http://www.auug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/vinum-devel for joining >> instructions). > > I'm a little bit confused. I've read Pouls mail as an suggestion to > remove vinum from -current and let people modify it in the perforce > repository. If I got this wrong, please tell me and everything is fine, > but if I got it right, do you (Greg) agree to remove it from -current? No. As others have said, if phk and I agree, the world will come to an end. I'm saying: 1. Yes, let people hack at it and improve on it outside the source tree. 2. If it works, don't fix it. At the moment, Vinum works, for some definition of "works". These two aren't incompatible. Removing existing functionality for the sake of purity, on the other hand, is unnecessary. Sadly, much as I love the discussion, I have this conference next week, starting in less than 12 hours, and I need to sleep first. Unless the shit hits the fan, don't expect to hear from me for a week. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --lrLUmiMCPBhU8YVX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAATMUIubykFB6QiMRAqHlAJ0Wd3uFQUikBonRkn8SxW/xNt0FpACbBOlF qLLwJ8v+RHyUdYcWZVL4Jn4= =EvJq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrLUmiMCPBhU8YVX--