From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 12 22:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-201-166.mmcable.com [65.31.201.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93EFC37B445 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 71861 invoked by uid 100); 13 Dec 2001 06:58:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15384.20874.658211.478300@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:58:18 -0600 To: "FreeBSD Chat" Subject: Re: EzBSD aint for me! Was: A breath of fresh air.. In-Reply-To: <005201c183a1$39ae92c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <20011211140107.A67653@FreeBSD.org> <0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <01121010202100.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> <20011211144049.A14693@acidpit.org> <20011211214943.A4489@tisys.org> <15382.29599.349155.309028@guru.mired.org> <20011211230257.A5157@tisys.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com> <15384.11772.363959.693167@guru.mired.org> <003701c18398$07091d30$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15384.17244.476714.955574@guru.mired.org> <004901c1839d$b273c440$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15384.19146.990082.336336@guru.mired.org> <005201c183a1$39ae92c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA v0.42/Python 2.1.1 (freebsd4) From: "Mike Meyer" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW, this is *not* address to Anthony Atkielski , so he has no reason to answer it. > Mike writes: > I have. It takes only one example to disprove your assertion. > > I don't know of anyone who has done the same with any version of UNIX, but > then again, I know hardly anyone using UNIX on the desktop. I do. And I've seen people do that with Unix as well. Since it only takes one example to disprove such an assertion, your original assertion about Unix require an expert to set it up and maintain it is false. > > Everyone I know had Windows installed by someone > > else, and required some outside assistance - usually > > in the form of a CDROM from their ISP - to get > > their network configured. > A product CD-ROM counts as "outside assistance"? In that case, virtually no > software can ever be installed without "outside assistance," which makes > your assertion moot. So if I give someone a floppy with a script that writes the appropriate configuration files on FreeBSD to talk to my favorite ISP, that wouldn't count as "outside assistance"? I take it you don't know how to configure Windows with a paned window manager, since you never answered that question. So much for getting a superior user interface on Windows. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message