From owner-freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 28 03:23:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CDF16A4CE; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E8043D1F; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:23:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBS3NKgg046710; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:23:21 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBS3NKi2046709; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:23:20 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from ache) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:23:20 +0300 From: Andrey Chernov To: Josef El-Rayes Message-ID: <20041228032319.GA46570@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20041227213356.GA25737@daemon.li> <20041227214450.GA40679@nagual.pp.ru> <20041227215101.GE25424@daemon.li> <20041227215256.GA40890@nagual.pp.ru> <20041227224356.GF25424@daemon.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041227224356.GF25424@daemon.li> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir Milter (version: 1.1.0-3; AVE: 6.29.0.5; VDF: 6.29.0.37; host: nagual.pp.ru) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (nagual.pp.ru [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 28 Dec 2004 06:23:22 +0300 (MSK) cc: standards@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: replacing "%+" with "%c %Z" X-BeenThere: freebsd-standards@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Standards compliance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:23:23 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 10:43:56PM +0000, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > Andrey Chernov : > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 09:51:01PM +0000, Josef El-Rayes wrote: > > > arent %+ and %c %Z in the same way locale-dependent? > >=20 > > Not the same way. > >=20 > > > whats the difference?=20 > >=20 > > See manpage and examine our timedef locales collection. >=20 > i wonder if this subtle format difference justifies > living with a non-standard extension. In general they can be non-subtle too, this is just for example. You can't= =20 assume anything about %+. Why not %Z %c? Or even %Z in the middle, like in= =20 traditional 'date'? The second question, why %+ is ever needed, is=20 different subject, see OSes implementing it and its common usage needs. --=20 http://ache.pp.ru/ --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBQdDRp+JgpPLZnQjrAQEn4wQAkInyp//ghphPDAAYCDhCPqsC+JY7K4hj eH6hmk+z5s4O7l+wkzsdaIzEwiUVquSXj1Fmh2+3HIUS86SS49uz2KzShp/z3gic SBqC6DXDtWERXNLDTeBFAYm+8dK+J9P7pJVe3pCfxUbNx8OzGEsByUtKRkKw5Ifs t4B1X0RgNfo= =lATE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ--