From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Aug 18 12:15:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7486CDDD1D4 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from post@herrhagen.de) Received: from mail.srv.hagen.coffee (brews.the.best.midnight.coffee [176.9.40.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6F683CE5 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from post@herrhagen.de) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.2]) by mail.srv.hagen.coffee (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B06A52A767 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:03:51 +0200 From: Stefan Hagen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for file server based zfs appliance Message-ID: <20170818120351.GA37121@shell-jail> References: <750ee484-a43e-c96f-bca2-d36825943dde@ingresso.co.uk> <61BB2282-5D66-410E-A4E8-CE7D78D8898B@punkt.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <61BB2282-5D66-410E-A4E8-CE7D78D8898B@punkt.de> Precedence: first-class Priority: normal X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p2 amd64 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-GPG: 0x8B8BD6DB OpenPGP: url=https://pgp.herrhagen.de; id=8B8BD6DB User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:15:26 -0000 * Patrick M. Hausen wrote: >> Am 18.08.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Pete French : >> The HP micro servers work very well, and you can pick them up remakably = cheaply [...] >> Not sure about ECC memory support there though. > >They do support ECC, no problem. > >They are available with different CPU configurations from >as Pete said remarkably cheap Celeron D based systems >up to Xeon CPUs. I've just sold my Microserver Gen8 (Xeon) just recently. It's a beautiful little machine, but I didn't make me happy in the long run. Reasons: - Limited to 8GB Ram in total - Only 4 HDDs - JBOD support is not great - Harddrives are never going to sleep (not supported) Installing FreeBSD was harder than expected. The machine refused to boot Fr= eeBSD =66rom the internal non-raid SATA ports. I didn't try FreeNAS though. Also, in case you go with a Microserver - I think all non-xeon models do not support AES-NI, which will cut the throughput in case you plan to encrypt y= our drives. iX-Systems would have been my choice to replace this machine until I found = out that I can build something myself that suits my needs even better. Note, I was looking at the 8 bay model and I would have to add around $280 = for shipping and tax to Germany. I'm now going for this custom build: - Fractal Design Define R5 Reason: Silent, enough space for 12 drives - SuperMicro MBD-A1SAI-2550F-O Reason: IPMI, ECC, AES-NI, 64GB Ram, Intel NIC, low power consumption - 4x 8GB Kingson ECC SODIMM Reason: 16GB modules are not yet available - Seasonic X-Series Fanless X-400FL 400W passiv Reason: Fanless -> silent The complete order was around 1000=E2=82=AC That being said, I'm planning to put an older 3ware controller in JBOD mode= in it and I also have SSDs and drives already. The board has only 6 SATA ports. But that would be enough for you. This might be a little big for you. But maybe it gives you ideas. Best Regards, Stefan