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Date:      Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:08:35 +1100 (Australia/NSW)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
To:        drwho@xnet.com (Michael Maxwell)
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: secure filesystem wiping
Message-ID:  <199911180408.PAA12677@cairo.anu.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <19991117213207.B21362@atlas.topquark.org> from "Michael Maxwell" at Nov 17, 1999 09:32:07 PM

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In some mail from Michael Maxwell, sie said:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 01:58:47PM +1100, Darren Reed wrote:
> > alias rm "cp /dev/zero \!1; rm \!1"
> > 
> > or something like that
> 
> I don't know how truthful this is, but I have heard rumor that a skilled
> data recovery expert (one with a very strong desire to see what you have
> deleted), is capable of reading at least SOME data that has been written
> over several times (something to do with extracting recognized patterns,
> not really sure).
> 
> U.S. government security "experts" state that one should write random
> garbage over data no less than 17 times before it can be considered
> secure.

for the truely paranoid, the only secure way to delete files is destroying
the physical medium used for storage.  I know government departments do
destroy media.  simple over writes is not enough, be it 1, 17 or 17,000



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