From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Oct 13 19:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f162.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A631837B66C for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:17:19 -0700 Received: from 208.191.39.147 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:17:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.191.39.147] From: "That Guy" To: hamellr@heorot.1nova.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -newbies Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 02:17:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2000 02:17:19.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[E10ACAF0:01C03584] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You're missing the point in your example of an admin. There is a definite boundary between questions I would ask about certain subjects in questions. I know I am not the only one, but many of my questions are minor, and to somebody much more knowledgeable, certainly not worth posting to such a huge listserv. The purpose of this listserv if it focused towards answering questions would be an alternative to -questions that has the knowledgeable patient ones among us to answer questions, while certainly not wasting the time of -questions. Every time I've posted to -questions I've gotten the distinct feeling that my question just wasn't of enough technical merit to justify having that many people read it. Not focusing towards newbies with genuine problems I think is a great mistake. -questions doesn't and can't fulfill those requirements. Josh >From: Rick Hamell >To: That Guy >CC: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: -newbies >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:45:06 +0000 (GMT) > > > > itself more toward the newer users. I really don't understand how the > > mission of this listserv could possibly aim towards regular conversation >of > > newbies. If anything, this listserv should be a -remedial version of > > -questions. Removing this listserv doesn't serve any purpose at all. >At > > least a refocus would do some good. > > It does serve a purpose. The orginal argument for NOT having >-newbies and not having technical questions in it. Say you've been thrown >into the position of admin. for your entire company (because you know >'computers') You inadvertantly ask a question on -newbies, get the wrong >answer, and boom... your company is down, or worst yet lost lots of >valuable data. I have seen at least once something similar... People who >are on -questions may not have time to keep track of -newbies also. Having >just one technical contact for all customers keeps everything in one place >so that those who know what they're doing can help even with the seemingly >'newbie' questions. > My major problem is that the questions that are being asked in >newbies, are not newbie questions! Asking about setting up a pccard, or >NATD, or DNS, or firewall filters are not in my mind newbie-type >questions. They are intermediate or even advanced topics. Newbies was >meant as a place for newbies to spout off about the latest thing they've >done, or a cool feature they found, or a web site that really helped them, >etc, etc... But when was the last time such a question came across? In the >last year, I believe I've only seen one, maybe two posts that I think are >ontopic for -newbies. > > > Rick > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message