From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Aug 23 17:26:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928BD10931E4 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C3F47BC63 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id e14-v6so8620182itf.1 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DE0H94fbOIcs4O/EjmGw6VtiJzhjczNUeM90odFU8EQ=; b=L6205qARWdv0BVBBHVcrjkwPhh4I8y9Y6/cSoqJLjJsl4IfPBhQSzbl+RYdl/iGGRQ pn/p7kuUOfipy1nkL0yXuNNZ+QzZs8XkmrZ2azxoaBxUUg6VmiPU+ENil82Edn5SNjkl g0w5U6g3z1D06VXg5BpvUtVhgUUxQP54Ec+HuUA77w58K9boT9qFSXv+wCxQd1AJUCjh YUlzJs7YqdO2osXwtfnWvQJV222veIirwcYE7AOtq6CiH3rD2MfZ2C9M5qud9JwCYIHo XVL5A2HO3aU0aGrJ3QOaCo+rXiVHZ2EFAy+/I49hcUc/VjvhJThuwsDjnJRmY6U7QpuG gR/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DE0H94fbOIcs4O/EjmGw6VtiJzhjczNUeM90odFU8EQ=; b=gjKxv3MnCZenDNtpuZ7zjxKC++DJHIO8wR9xnA3q/nxxrKuE5qL6ECaeCZXXlfZi4F YrIEd/ZohyrrDU/WQimoCRy/iD4U9XGCuT6ZTyHLFTNG8S+NTOsPNhRmDDD+KDU/Z3+5 6FeS2QRJnc09LTLehOiczFu5YiYWPcH3RJDLiAN68lErHgGe3ueV0RF3K7zrdjg9VGBQ XBn8O45qDdN1vWb0cGE1j3G0e5uipdSdIIPtgGKOaVNTiFSwqHTa5+tJxUfTALajitXq xDQxAj59AwzenXagdE/JIf4+esQS13FCY2Ei4uIWfTNWbqYJlo/VLgGB8BL0TtR3ly9B AdkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BTgTRWZSk085T62q+5tIyI2B6MTixl2H0ZWPyF2RdKTesYq5Wm UkljRV4QECg2o/Y3npxAWf/ShON17643Gdjvyepuyg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbKTMsf8MDD13wLmXFuyP5KdR0CvunGaK0xwMWusY1O1ThwfKifTfP/lwefswO1NM2ngVT4tz8NXawe69081lk= X-Received: by 2002:a24:c902:: with SMTP id h2-v6mr2572367itg.75.1535045170410; Thu, 23 Aug 2018 10:26:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201808221608.w7MG89vW085118@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201808221608.w7MG89vW085118@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:25:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r338172 - Now deprecating DRM To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matt Macy , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:26:12 -0000 On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:08 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > I think this deprecation is a rather serious deviation > from the stated policy, in that 0 notification was > made, core IMHO, has overstepped some boundaries in > that respect. These policies are promises to the > downstream consumers, and violating them is very > poor planning. > Despite what the commit said, core didn't actually formally approve it before the fact. That was one of the many miscommunications surrounding this episode. I don't think you'll find anybody who would say this was well planned or well executed. Warner