From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 26 1:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C98C37B422 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rasputin@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14shE0-00070Z-00; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:34:08 +0100 Received: (from rasputin@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3Q8Y8v28760; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:34:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rasputin) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:34:07 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building /usr/X11R6/bin/ Message-ID: <20010426093407.C28408@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <52769342@toto.iv> <15079.23495.71385.589314@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <15079.23495.71385.589314@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 06:20:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Mike Meyer [010426 03:08]: > Drew Derbyshire types: > > > make world doesn't touch X. X is not part of the base system, it's 3rd > > party software > > Just as an aside ... > > I'm caught off guard because it is inconsistent with other third party > > components. SENDMAIL and the various GNU tools are third-party as well, but > > they go into the base system (as opposed to the /usr/local tree) One of the 'gnu tools' is the compiler. Without that getting upgrading, you'd be playing the 'glibc2.0->2.2 linux hell' game that penguins so love. > > same system binary installation procedure as X binaries -- but these other > > components are built with the base system. X is installed from the dist > > files (as opposed to package files) and into the base system (as opposed to > > the /usr/local/ tree), so one can reasonably expect them to be installed in > > a like fashion. > X is the only port that's installed using the system binary > installation method. This violation of POLA is a continuing source of > problems and questions. I think X is a special case. It's a port, but Ms. A. Newbie needs X more than most. Command lines still scare some people. The server crowd won't bother installing it until they need it, and are less likely to cut themselves on the pointy edges of /usr/ports. -- A triangle which has an angle of 135 degrees is called an obscene triangle. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message