From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 3 11:34:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8BD1065671 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:34:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-gw2.york.ac.uk (mail-gw2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA33B8FC0C for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw2.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m63B13xJ012047; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from buffy-128.york.ac.uk ([144.32.128.160] helo=buffy.york.ac.uk) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KEMYh-0006mA-1Y; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:01:03 +0100 Received: from buffy.york.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m63B12SE032678; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:01:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ga9@localhost) by buffy.york.ac.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m63B12Mm032677; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:01:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: buffy.york.ac.uk: ga9 set sender to gavin@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Gavin Atkinson To: Rob Lytle In-Reply-To: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:01:02 +0100 Message-Id: <1215082862.32135.4.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: gavin@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:34:36 -0000 On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 11:23 -0700, Rob Lytle wrote: > Hi All, > > My depressing analysis- YMMV. I've used FreeBSD since 1998. > > 1..Installing the packages off of the menu on the 3 CDROMs is an incredibly > tedious miserable process. I had to switch out the CD's around 40 times. > If you don't believe me, just mark a whole bunch of random packages after > obtaining the 7.0 release CD's, ad then install. Its frustrating and almost > like Windows, except its a bit faster as replacing CD's is faster than > reboots. There's been a few reports of this (see e.g. PR misc/123632), but I've tried recreating it myself without much success. Do you happen to know roughly which packages you installed? I'd really like to fix it, but I need to be able to recreate it first... > 2. When installing any given package, if a dependency is already there , > the package aborts and then goes though some loop where you have to press > OK half a dozen times. Thats insane. I've not seen this either, but I'll see if I can recreate it in a couple of days. Do you happen to know if there is a PR about this issue? If not, is there any chance you could submit one with more details of the error messages? Thanks, Gaivn