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Date:      Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:53:20 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@iowna.com>
To:        Nathan Mace <nmace85@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: soft updates
Message-ID:  <01091623532001.12342@proxy.the-i-pa.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com>
References:  <20010916205323.7039d728.nmace85@yahoo.com>

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On Sunday 16 September 2001 20:53, Nathan Mace wrote:
> i'm looking at the freebsd handbook right now, trying to decide if i should
> use soft-updates on my box.  i can't afford to lose any data, that is
> written in stone.
>
> it says: "First, Soft Updates guarantees filesystem consistency in the case
> of a crash..."  is this true?  it also lists two "problems" that might
> occur using it.  one would be that it 'runs' out of space if my drive is
> close to being full.  thats not an issue, niether is the 2nd problem
>
> basically what i'm asking is is it stable?  and how much of a performance
> gain am i gonna see?  thanks

I've been running softupdates on a number of production machines for over
a year now - many of them in concert with vinum.
I'll have to say that the stability is there.  Some of these machines are in
sketchy environments, where power outages are far too common, as well
as itchy employees that hit the power switch on the server at the first sign
of trouble.  An unexpected shutdown has never caused a softupdates
filesystem to fail to fsck and remount.  In the worst case I've seen, I had
to run fsck manually to get things going again, but it worked.  In case you
aren't aware, I've never seen nor heard of softupdates causing data
corruption under normal conditions - only with unclean shutdowns, and
in that case, any filesystem is liable to get corrupted.
I can't vouch personally for the performance section, as I've never really
tested it.  There are many resources on the internet, however.
The only drawback to softupdates that I know of, is it's actually _slower_ on
machines with extremely low RAM. (i.e. there is so little RAM that the system
regularly needs to swap during normal operation) I seriously doubt that this
is a problem right now, with RAM prices what they are.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technology technical services
(412) 793-4257

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