From owner-freebsd-java Wed Apr 22 02:04:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01549 for freebsd-java-outgoing; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kcwc.com (h1.kcwc.com [206.139.252.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01543 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:04:37 GMT (envelope-from tomchapp@intelenet.net) Received: from tom-tchapp.intelenet.net by mail.kcwc.com (NX5.67c/NeXT-2.0-KCWC-1.0) id AA02345; Wed, 22 Apr 98 05:04:33 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Tom Chappell" Cc: Subject: RE: Sun & FreeBSD? Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:04:04 -0700 Message-Id: <000c01bd6dcd$997d7060$840726cf@tom.livesystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199804220657.QAA01719@cimlogic.com.au> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Tom Chappell wrote: > > Not that I'm complaining or anything, but why don't you hold > off worrying > > about those other technologies until you've got your current Java port > > solid? It seems kind of half-baked at the moment (in the sense of 'well > > begun'). > > John Birrell [mailto:jb@cimlogic.com.au] replied: > Err, I'll bite. What is "half-baked" about it? > > There must be something I'm missing. I'm surpised that you'd think that. First off, let me say that I haven't done a lick of work on this project myself. As Amancio Hasty said, you folks are free to work on what you like, just as I am free to fix the problems I'm complaining about, if I'm so inclined. But as to the question of why I characterized it as only well-begun, as opposed to being completed and ready for additional enhancements, I must say that I am astonished at your surprise. I say that because I've had trouble running most of the larger Java applications that I've tried to run on the current build. Are you saying that you haven't had the same experience? I had assumed that it was universal. To be clear, what I'm saying is that most of the larger Java programs that I try to run with the current build mostly work, but exhibit bugs not seen on other Java platforms. Here are some notable items from the http://www.FreeBSD.org/java page itself: "This is a pre-release version..." "jdk1.1.5.V98-2-25.tar.gz appears to have some difficult-to-track-down socket bugs." "There are a few known bugs which occur when tested against the supplied demos. They do not bomb out, but display error messages. The most common occurs when you start appletviewer: java in free(): warning: chunk is already free. *or* java in free(): warning: chunk is already free." "There is also a 'signal abort' error that occurs at random times." Again, you folks have done a great job taking it this far, but as a FreeBSD user, I just wish that the port was a little closer to production quality (of the same quality as FreeBSD itself, say). Do what you want, I was just trying to let you know that I'd love to use it if it was ready to use. -TC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message