From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Jan 7 13:03:56 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B1214924A4 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 13:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "puchar.net", Issuer "puchar.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50A6E8BB6C for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 13:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x07D43J4060442 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:04:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x07D3wRm060439; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:03:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:03:58 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lars Engels cc: Wojciech Puchar , Igor Mozolevsky , Hackers freeBSD , Pratyush Yadav Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components In-Reply-To: <20190107120629.GU40894@e.0x20.net> Message-ID: References: <6DF138FB-E730-477A-A992-8FE1944DDE94@exonetric.com> <451787DE-0659-4F7D-B011-904F90866DDB@gmail.com> <20190107120629.GU40894@e.0x20.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 50A6E8BB6C X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wojtek@puchar.net designates 194.1.144.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wojtek@puchar.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.82 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[puchar.net]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: puchar.net]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.941,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.144.1.194.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(-3.58)[ip: (-9.42), ipnet: 194.1.144.0/24(-4.71), asn: 43476(-3.77), country: PL(0.03)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:43476, ipnet:194.1.144.0/24, country:PL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 13:03:56 -0000 >> This is a "modern" programming where morons dominated. Common. > > Wojciech, we got it. FreeBSD is perfect for you. You do not care about > what other people need, think and want. It's okay for you when FreeBSD's > user base shrinks until you are its last user. Definitely not last. > Can we other people now discuss how we can FreeBSD make relevant again? revelant for what? For being just the same bloat as other are? So why care to make it at all?