From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 6 10:47:13 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB20E20535 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22b.google.com (mail-wr0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F39077D52A for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2017 10:47:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from g8kbvdave@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id a43so13142655wrc.0 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2017 03:47:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=xdzNTuw/Zo8ZWlv3QYy/uCeNjsr+CIJZips3VyfgGM8=; b=su2SBBXlH/HVCGZQX3QJfsgRTjGgtkWpThxRORsg2m9jRSg5mvhKenA1L3cv5ep4Lo x38EzeaMfjusOKzJW4nGHFufVHGICbhE5JLan7qv/VZQF1WBONIHjpsKgqGSMkABw/nk IV9JcI8y8LUUVrvUyNC+E425MUUzEbE0UIbz+CbwKRk72eNp+NLph0N/Mf8yZtXkEifZ G0oMAbDo4WUFQNr8tX9V1eOfcK1AAbFbPo0+OdnhYh1mFcbL4s4Nkl73AJsI9a3OHMNZ IJ3seQi1HISgwaghG8wrP8UcgcNf9zpPZjLYfXllesyaIhnbfgstzE+MR0X0u2eCpHTM dxEw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUjShwhENuBDteL2zZBjBkqNeWVZMp5SErbuQMDTMsI4ZYnef1et M5nYaR7rDjslQ3vsg7c= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb7AoiqeqhEtqjxo3b1CVG8RlYRjAkSTD9VkJVTyEN+RPiQV6BtQAzPqLrgP3u82pVF6T6R2Tw== X-Received: by 10.223.198.19 with SMTP id n19mr1654117wrg.282.1504694830295; Wed, 06 Sep 2017 03:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.55] ([217.41.35.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y99sm3439503wmh.1.2017.09.06.03.47.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Sep 2017 03:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 692, Issue 3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Dave B Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 11:47:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2017 10:47:14 -0000 On 05/09/17 22:06, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Polytropon(freefreebsd@edvax.de)@2017.09.05 20:26:42 +0200: >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:17:07 +0100, John Chapman wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have a well used laptop that had Windows Vista on when I bought it. >>> As you know Windows no longer supports Vista and I don't see the >>> point in upgrading at great expense. >> That's fully correct. There is no value in dealing with "Vista" >> anymore. >> >> >> >>> Is it possible to just uninstall Windows and download FreeBSD. >> It is not needed to uninstall "Windows". Basically, it's even >> technically impossible to _un_install "Windows" because it does >> not have a means to do so. ;-) >> > We use defenstration to uninstall Windows > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defenestration > > -karl Hi All I'd add, Backup your personal info (documents, files, photo's music etc, onto an external drive. You never know what you might need once it's gone!) Perform some system maintenance. Clean all the dust out of the insides of the PC/Laptop (need to take screws out and dismantle etc, take care, observe ESD precautions etc.) BSD (and 'Nix) by default seem to consume more power on given hardware than Windows does, especially when the CPU is little used. (I've measured it, some 'nix's can be well over 30% more "juicy" than an original Windows install!) 'Nix can be tweaked, not sure about' BSD. But best to give the thing the ability to remove any extra waste heat that will be created. Add as much RAM as the hardware will support, if not already max'd out. RAM is cheap, and makes a world of difference to any modern(ish) OS, especially if you plan to use Xwindows or similar. Check the hard drive for health. I have my own copy of GRC's spinrite*, that is just the best. (No affiliation, just a happy owner.) Watch the SMART data, in case the drive is starting to show it's age. (* It's OS agnostic, you can run it on a new 'blank' drive to qualify them fit for use, or recover failing PVR and iPod disks, etc etc.) DBAN it (Darik's Boot n Nuke, https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/ ) to remove all vestiges of any OS and hidden data. I've had some minor but frustrating issues re-purposing old Windows machines, as "deleting the partition" does not actually delete much, plus it seems some part of the F'BSD install can trip over stuff left on disk. Rare, but utterly frustrating.. (Actually more of a problem I've found, doing a F'BSD update by overwriting an existing install, even after "deleting" existing partitions/slices or whatever, than re-purposing a PC that had another OS on it.) It's slower, but I find that the boot only CD and a Network install is the best for older hardware, that can boot a CD, but may not handle a DVD. Gets you the latest ports etc updates too. That'll get you the plain vanilla command line F'BSD, I'm sure others here will guide you through the install of X etc, if you need that. Have Fun. Dave B.