From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 29 03:56:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AD816A41F for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:56:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from S2.cableone.net (s2.cableone.net [24.116.0.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A380A43D48 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:56:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S2.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S2) with ESMTP id 31501747 for multiple; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:56:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:01:03 -0500 From: "Z.C.B." To: aanton@spintech.ro Message-ID: <20050928230103.6a5f9aa5@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: <433B3F41.8060004@spintech.ro> References: <433B3F41.8060004@spintech.ro> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.14 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 133, in=202, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:54:53 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: journaling fs and large mailbox format X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 03:56:33 -0000 =46rom personal experience on a smaller system(~1000 accounts and nearly all ways less than 45MB boxes) I would suggest avoiding mboxes all together. Maildir is all ways the way to go. For cleaning stuff out automatically and ect, maildir is much nicer as well. Also is this vnodes or inodes? See the tuning man pages. For vnodes, there are some sysctls. On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:11:29 +0300 Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: > Dear Hackers, >=20 > First of all thank you for your time and attention. >=20 > I am in the position to implement a large-scale mail server > and I will never go for anything else but FreeBSD (fixation?). >=20 > It should be able to handle graceously 4000 e-mail accounts > where a minimum of 50 Mb/mailbox would be a requirement. In the > begining, it is desirable that users could use as much free space > as available, so this implies some gigabytes/mailbox. >=20 > I don't know if the mbox format can handle this, and I know > Maildir cannot handle this on UFS2 standard install, no matter of > soft-updates. (because it exhaustes the free nodes) So I currently > have no solution for this stuff. >=20 > I was wondering what is the status of Journaling File > Systems on FreeBSD? Any which is usable and mature, with write > access? XFS would fit amazingly well with Maildir, but.. I doubt > it's anything else but readonly. >=20 > So any suggestion would really help a lot. Thank's in > advance. >=20 > =09 > Yours Sincerely, > --=20 > Alin-Adrian Anton > GPG keyID 0x183087BA (B129 E8F4 7B34 15A9 0785 2F7C 5823 ABA0 1830 > 87BA) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0x183087BA >=20 > "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - > Voltaire