From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Jun 23 12:49:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail-relay1.yahoo.com (mail-relay1.yahoo.com [216.145.48.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF44E37B401; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FreeBSD.org (12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com [12.234.90.219]) by mail-relay1.yahoo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B75B8B5C4; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3D16265A.3EB9DB6E@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:49:46 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Makoto Matsushita , des@ofug.org, will@csociety.org, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installing XFree86 package via sysinstall: need X wrapper or not? References: <20020621134520.G68827@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020621223209.GP76002@squall.waterspout.com> <20020624002649D.matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org> <20020623124111.C51272@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:26:49AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: > > Current situations: > > 3) The startx users think that XFree86 4.2 is broken, X server > > can't start. FreeBSD bundles XFree86 4.2. As a result, > > they says "Latest FreeBSD's X server is broken." > > > > How to solve: > > 4a) Write documents, to explain that "startx users should > > install X wrapper separately, since sysinstall doesn't > > automatically install the wrapper." > > 4b) Install X wrapper after XFree86 installation is finished. > > 4c) Add X wrapper itself into XFree86 meta-port. > > 4d) Do nothing. > > > > Current situation is 4d), I propose 4b) in the last email, and some > > others suggests 4c). > > You will have the same problem with `pkg_add -r XFree86' if you choose > "4b". That is why I am opposed to only handling it in Sysinstall. > > In addition to "4c", the granular menu of X bits one wishes to install > needs to be re-added. I tried this, but either bugs in libdialog or my > knowledge of its API caused me to fail in the short time I had to do the > XF4 changes this before 4.6. Well, I just fixed a bug in the textbox part of dialog(1), if that helps you any. :) I also thought of another point... even if we see using xdm as a "better" solution than startx, users will still need to be able to startx in order to get their X configuration nice and tidy before they try xdm. So, I'm still in favor of installing the wrapper with the X install. I'd rather educate the few users who know they won't need it to delete it after the install, rather than take the (legitimate) complaints from those who need it, but don't have it. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message