From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 15:26:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA8837B400 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4C9178415; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:56:24 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:56:24 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <20020403085624.J26122@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <003a01c1da0e$4ec56080$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020402161351.A26122@wantadilla.lemis.com> <006901c1da80$599af0c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006901c1da80$599af0c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Quoted lines artificially shortened. On Tuesday, 2 April 2002 at 21:55:32 +0200, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Greg writes: > >> Ah, this wouldn't have anything to do with >> Microsoft, would it? Who killed Netscape? > > No. Frankly, Netscape Navigator was garbage from the beginning, but > it had no competition for those critical first months of widespread > discovery of the Web. The first versions of Microsoft Internet > Explorer were even worse, and nobody really bothered with versions 1 > and 2 of MSIE. Version 3, however, was the equal of Netscape for > the most part; and versions 4 and beyond blew Netscape away, for > quality, reliability, and standards conformance. And that's what > killed Netscape. If they had spent more time But not money? > fixing and improving their browser and less time trying to claim > that Someone Else was killing them off by daring to provide serious > competition, they might still be viable today. So you're saying that Microsoft didn't try to kill Netscape? That the accusations and evidence brought at the DoD trial were fabricated? Where's *your* evidence? >> I'll agree with you that Netscape is not a good browser. > > I do indeed agree, With yourself? What a surprise. >> But then, I've never seen a good browser, let alone an excellent >> one. > > Both MSIE 5.x and beyond and Opera 5.x and beyond do a very good job > indeed, based on the tests I put them through on the W3C's test > pages. I have to use Microsoft at work. It's crap. I've never seen a good browser, let alone an excellent one. >> The only way I could find any Microsoft product good, let alone >> excellent, would be to lower my standards. > > Or you could try dropping your bias. What is the difference in your opinion? Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message