From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 8 23:50:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17831 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17810; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 23:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA06219; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:19:47 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA11260; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:19:08 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980809161908.B11095@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:19:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Glenn Johnson Cc: FreeBSD advocacy list Subject: Re: help in convincing management not to supplant Unix with NT References: <199808090309.WAA00774@gforce.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199808090309.WAA00774@gforce.bellsouth.net>; from Glenn Johnson on Sat, Aug 08, 1998 at 10:09:37PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Moved to -advocacy. I don't suppose -questions is really wrong, but -advocacy is probably better. On Saturday, 8 August 1998 at 22:09:37 -0500, Glenn Johnson wrote: > Greetings, > > At my place of employment, the management team, who are basically computer > illiterate, have decided that there should be no Unix machines providing > network or Internet services, only NT machines. Sure, that makes sense. The Internet runs on UNIX. Why use it to connect? My sumpathies. > I am trying to convince them that this would be a mistake. This > situation is complicated by the fact that the Network Administrator > does not know anything about Unix and has shown an unwillingness to > learn. Over the last 4 months, the AIX machine that the previous > Network Administrator setup has been running happily without any > intervention, while the NT servers have crashed at least twice a > month. I personally have six FreeBSD machines (workstation usage) > that have been running without any problems; but this does not seem > to be enough evidence. > I, along with a couple of other people are trying to present > evidence to keep Unix systems running at our site. I searched the > FreeBSD archives and found the reference to the article by John > Kirsch about Unix vs. NT and have submitted that to management. I am > curious if anybody else has had to go through this type of nonsense > and could provide any pointers. I am particularly interested in Unix > vs. NT for mail service. I've been collecting some URLs. You might like to check out these (I've left out the Kirch article) http://gpg.com/cnme/0496/file91.html http://www.ncworldmag.com/ncw-04-1998/ncw-04-nextten.html?jw (this is the first of three or four articles on the subject; follow up via the links) http://www.bsdi.com/info/ntvsunix (from BSDI, who of course have their axe to grind. But they have some good links on this page). http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/msapogee.html (a bit old now, and possibly not so relevant) http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/980730/crl_networ_1.html (read how wcarchive.cdrom.com, running FreeBSD, outperformed 40 Microsoft machines running NT). This is still my favourite. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message