From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 20 12:25:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2569716A4CE for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.univie.ac.at (mailbox.univie.ac.at [131.130.1.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E29C43D60 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from l.ertl@univie.ac.at) Received: from wireless (adslle.cc.univie.ac.at [131.130.102.11]) i0KKPY4U123980; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:25:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:25:29 +0100 (CET) From: Lukas Ertl To: Kevin Wooten In-Reply-To: <400D8B24.8090108@wooten.com> Message-ID: <20040120211804.D605@korben.in.tern> References: <20040120201119.W53587-100000@x12.dk> <400D8B24.8090108@wooten.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DCC-ZID-Univie-Metrics: mailbox 4251; Body=4 Fuz1=4 Fuz2=4 cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rg?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?rav?= cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM + Vinum X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:25:56 -0000 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Kevin Wooten wrote: > >My 2 cents is to start building the house from the ground with the geom > >classes, then add on the algorithms from the existing vinum. > >and end up with the roof as is the the vinum configuration tool. > > > My point is that with the GEOM config...who needs vinum config?? People should have a clean update path and FreeBSD has always respected POLA. What I know from the recent thread about vinum and GEOM, and given that there will be more upcoming changes to the I/O infrastructure, vinum is likely to be broken once FreeBSD 5.3 is out. The 5.3 branch should clearly be a -stable branch once again, and if we want people to finally upgrade from 4.x, they have to be able to do it without much fuss. So, providing a completely compatible geom_vinum is a must, IMHO. regards, le -- Lukas Ertl eMail: l.ertl@univie.ac.at UNIX Systemadministrator Tel.: (+43 1) 4277-14073 Vienna University Computer Center Fax.: (+43 1) 4277-9140 University of Vienna http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~le/