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Date:      Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:04:29 -0000 (GMT)
From:      Duncan Barclay <dmlb@dmlb.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael C.Wu <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Subject:   Re: Mobile phone coverage (was: VCD (was Re: cvs commit: src/sys
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010122230429.dmlb@computer.my.domain>
In-Reply-To: <v04220829b6914d70834a@[10.0.1.2]>

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On 22-Jan-01 Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 12:35 PM +1030 2001/1/22, Greg Lehey wrote:
> 
>>  That's not the issue here.  BTW, for the USA you need a three-band
>>  phone.  That is, incidentally, the only kind of phone which will work
>>  just about anywhere (I'm not sure about Israel and Korea).
> 
>       Uhh, I think you need more than that.  Let's count:
> 
>               AMPS/NAMPS
>               US TDMA (1900Mhz? 900Mhz?)
>               US CDMA (1900Mhz? 900Mhz?)
>               US GSM (1900Mhz)
>               European GSM (900Mhz/1800Mhz)
> 
>       To which you will be able to add W-CDMA, with the advent of the 
> 3G networks.  Of course, this doesn't begin to address the needs for 
> analog coverage outside the US -- this is just a list of the 
> different technologies and frequencies of which I am personally 
> acquainted.  I'd love to see this list get expanded.

UMTS/3G is 1920-1980 downlink and 2110-2170 uplink.
 
>>  The real issue is competition.  One large company would be able to get
>>  better coverage.
> 
>       Coverage is extremely expensive to build.  It's much cheaper to 
> buy.  And even then, you don't really try to dot the entire country 
> side with a tower in each and every square mile (maybe every 1/10th 
> of a square mile in cities), you just don't bother trying to put up 
> antennas in the less populated areas, and you live with the fact that 
> 98% coverage is good enough and the rest of the people can just piss 
> off.

You also build pci and micro cellular basestations that live on light/
utility poles. Nokia, Ericsson and Lucent all do these. Nokias are
called MetroCite.
 
>>>  Love love 3G+W-CDMA.
>>
>>  And where do I get one?

R+D labs! Not mine yet though :-(
 
>       Damn good question.  I wanna know, too.

Duncan

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