From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 27 14:20:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C9237B416 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-30-123.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.30.123]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07158; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:20:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011127162010.01042450@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:20:10 -0600 To: "Bob Hall" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: this spam In-Reply-To: <20011127164937.A605@starpower.net> References: <20011127104635.Y15780-100000@localhost> <000101c17718$77d43180$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20011127104635.Y15780-100000@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bob: Just because they are doing it doesn't justify it.... it's because their survival is on the edge that they are trying very hard to satisfy those customers who complain. I know at least one of the largest ISPs who will tell you that while they understand spam is undesirable, they "are still trying to figure out a method of dealing with it"... that was a long time ago and nothing yet. They recognize the dilemma of filtering emails for customers will make some unhappy and not filtering on some basis will make some unhappy.... alas, the financial outlook for the small ISP is rather bleak in trying not to lose a much-needed customer... but, not only because of spam, but a loss of a single customer means much more to the small company than the large one everytime. At 04:49 PM 11.27.2001 -0500, Bob Hall wrote: >On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 10:48:29AM -0800, David Kirchner wrote: >> What about the extra price involved in maintaining the filters, filtering >> out spam that got past the filters, etc? Storage that does nothing but sit >> there and occasionally gets backed up (even though it's not common to back >> up a mail spool, I think, due to its nature) vs. employees maintaining >> lists, reading spam, inputing additional filters, etc - I think I can see >> which is cheaper. :-) > >There's a relatively small, local ISP in my area called Erols. They >keep three people on staff to deal with spam. (Check their web site.) >Erols competes on price and is too small to have money to waste on >something that doesn't either return a profit or save more money than >it costs. If it's cheaper to ignore spam, why do small ISPs with >razor thin margins bother to deal with it aggressively? > >Bob Hall > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message