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Date:      Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:39:09 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Mikhail Teterin <mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: swap-related problems 
Message-ID:  <635.924100749@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:14:35 EDT." <199904141314.JAA24946@kot.ne.mediaone.net> 

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In message <199904141314.JAA24946@kot.ne.mediaone.net>, Mikhail Teterin writes:
>Poul-Henning Kamp once stated:
>
>=>Well, this is just an implementation detail, is not it? I don't
>=>mean to critisize, or anything, but such thing as "no available
>=>memory" is a fairly intuitive... Coming down, again, the malloc
>=>should return a usable memory if available and NULL if it's not.
>=>Is not this a "natural" semantics? Why can a program die because
>=>_another_ program ate up all the rest of the memory?
>=
>=You know, this strikes me about as productive a discussion as the
>[...]
>=Very very fundamental to UNIX philosophy is the maxim that it is
>=roots responsibility to configure the system right.
>
>I'm sorry I managed to annoy you. However, a program needs to be
>able to know if it can legally ask for more memory, right? And it
>is "very fundamental to malloc philosophy", that malloc returns
>NULL, when it can not get more memory. Which it apparently does
>now on FreeBSD, but only if the program exceeds an artificial
>datasize limit...

malloc() on FreeBSD returns NULL when it cannot allocate the memory
asked for.

If you have an example where this is not the case I would VERY
much like to see it.

--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!


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