From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 2 01:14:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF3916A4B3 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.he.iki.fi (helenius.fi [193.64.42.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E8643FE1 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Received: from he.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.he.iki.fi (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h928ElNn035503; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 11:14:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from pete@he.iki.fi) Message-ID: <3F7BDE77.90801@he.iki.fi> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 11:14:47 +0300 From: Petri Helenius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030923 X-Accept-Language: English [en],Finnish [fi] MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harti Brandt References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030615064011.02e39eb8@194.184.65.4> <20031001181759.GA65157@pit.databus.com> <20031001182507.GA24453@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <20031002095224.L11328@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <20031002095224.L11328@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Barney Wolff cc: esperti@gufi.org cc: net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADSL PPoA or RFC1483, any solutions ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 08:14:57 -0000 Harti Brandt wrote: >On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Bruce M Simpson wrote: > >BMS>On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:17:59PM -0400, Barney Wolff wrote: >BMS>> Are you talking about running the phone line directly to the fbsd box >BMS>> with no dsl modem? >BMS> >BMS>Yes. Also, PPPoA in FreeBSD is currently only implemented if you use ngatm, >BMS>because of the signalling involved. RFC 1483 framing is a simple bolt-on >BMS>to the existing HARP drivers, but those don't support xDSL PHYs. > >Does PPPoA really need signalling? I tried to find any pointers to PPPoA >specification, but this seems to be not easy to find. > > Usually it does not, one just runs PPP over AAL5SNAP or AAL5VCMUX PVC. However most providers seem to go for RFC1483B because it practically eliminates CPE configuration issues. Pete