Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:18:13 -0400 From: "chromexa@ovis.net" <chromexa@ovis.net> To: mbilekic@yahoo.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Cc: chromexa@ovis.net Subject: RE: Why did FreeBSD fail? Message-ID: <294010-220028220121813894@M2W062.mail2web.com>
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Original Message: ----------------- From: Mosko Bilekic mbilekic@yahoo=2Eco=2Euk Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:39:08 +0100 (BST) To: hackers@freebsd=2Eorg, chat@freebsd=2Eorg Subject: Why did FreeBSD fail? Gentlemen, it's time to explain why FreeBSD is such a failure=2E In the following lines, David O'Brien explains why 5=2E0 is such a POS=2E=2E=2E <@motminh> -current is a fucking piece of shit right now=2E <@Keltia> hi motminh=20 < gordont> motminh: no, it's just shitty for you, I just updated fine <@motminh> gordont: try using mucho scsi disks + IPFW <@motminh> gordont: isp(4) is shit=2E <@motminh> gordont: Oh, and on an SMP box <@motminh> gordont: we haven't been stable since June 27th (just before ipfw2 hit)=2E * motminh *just* got a ffs block not freed panic with an hour old kernel=2E < gordont> motminh: hmm, well I can't attest for isp or ipfw, but my smp box works fine <@motminh> gordont: if I use an isp controller I can't even make it to single user <@motminh> gordont: you have a single ide disk in it? <@motminh> gordont: please do=2E <@motminh> gordont: we have noone (few) stress testing -current right now=2E <@motminh> for many the test is a basic PC and "make world"=2E < gordont> motminh: I have to get FC down to my EMC box first though <@motminh> I hear more and more developers that only have a -current shitbox to make sure something compiles that was developed on -stable before they commit it to -current=2E < gordont> motminh: well, I'm proud to say my desktop at work is running -CURRENT <@motminh> Keltia: awake? <@Keltia> motminh: yes <@motminh> Keltia: are you running -current on your SMP box? <@Keltia> motminh: I'm afraid not <@motminh> Keltia: have you even seen the "launching CPU #1" message get fucked up in the middle of SCSI probe output? <@Keltia> motminh: I think I have seen it yes <@motminh> anordby: you have to `make depend' first=2E <@motminh> anordby: 1/2 ass commits broke building kernels <@anordby> motminh: hrrm ok <@anordby> motminh: i have a -current testing box that i intend to make rebuild world+kernel every night=2E=2E automatically from pxe installs=2E :) <@Keltia> motminh: still there ? <@motminh> 7ep <@motminh> Keltia: my box hasn't been stable enough <@motminh> Keltia: the /bin/sh bug that fubar'ed |'s kept me from build many ports <@Keltia> motminh: when you'll be able to try gcc33, see my message in -current --------------------------------- As you see, -CURRENT has been totally broken for almost two months now=2E And don't get me started on -STABLE=2E FreeBSD 4=2Ex is such a joke=2E=2E=2E enterprise ready my ass! The other big problem that the FreeBSD project faces is that a lot of developers prefer to waste time flaming instead of coding=2E Mike Smith knew that, that's why he left=2E Jordan Hubbard is an asshole btw=2E As always, some greetings=2E=2E=2E Juli Mallett, sorry for the typo :) David O'Brien, you're a great hacker, but a real asshole Matt Dillon, I had a lot of respect for you until you replied to the Pythonstein troll, you SUCK Greg Lehey, MORON, don't feed the trolls! Alfred Perlstein, drunktard Hiten Pandya, IMBECILE Bosko Milekic, if I ever meet you, I'll kick your ass! Paul Saab, asshole Bill Fumerola, FUCK YOU Will Andrews, I suggest you join a real project Diane Bruce, the reason I never mentioned you is that you're so fucking ugly I felt sorry for you :) Yours, Mosko __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk=2Emy=2Eyahoo=2Ecom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD=2Eorg with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message Uggh, folks does it really help us with anything to fall to the level of personal insults? I mean I doubt projects fail because someone thinks someone else is ugly=2E I might buy "Uh, you look like such a scary scienc= e fiction monster no could work with you=2E=2E=2E" but that's pushing it=2E = It would be nice to hear good reasons why something works or doesn't=2E Not page af= ter page of personl invective=2E Have Fun, Sends Steve -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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