From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Nov 17 18:05:26 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D501F46B1DF for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf32.google.com (mail-qv1-xf32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CbDPd6Gv0z3Fb4 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf32.google.com with SMTP id y11so11107432qvu.10 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:05:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=L90xknWZq5CBKTfncmg9Y4EHOld4vXbeBDpjjDwK3F0=; b=pqYfGbop0iW798OT86RjG8ASGGOPm9t4iUHxKxq06ESnXqPxbC2fGzTtz+x/cdIqja IoUvTTifWH7sUasHy8+E2rtH2xe1Sn83L5/zYy+/Uy2Hf8oaXWlaH5ryfaV6ez+2mUiP XZvzkVrQUChbDtSGFOYh8DLddoavvkcxrv8m/F7SJkT8kABNX47XuxrXFFBM3l2bjwoD DWEJwGhFLs1QncsrFFKJ5Y8+NqnDr9ZkEvGP/ISnlHmTI0csZhRwErxMPQUZKW0d5YIK 9D8v4S6aChJkj57+if7tZBttijWHBhGdvV8uENf4KXn7smuxXH7K5+lTquya0AxVsuLC qu7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531uzzyLLeDSnzYyCYc4ETXDhb0aFSg0XRYpn6hs1KyUuOPpaLqW Ll9+PwiVOO1wkB/ac7Fh9X14O13IDqweEIxI4sCAMiqmkucArTvl X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwDO1UrFOtRGSzYu5ihlm/9CfevH9ss8UekT3re4RbJiETwO3b5QWiHUDwa4MSpXaeJmqGMdTmeGrercxilS2k= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4743:: with SMTP id c3mr864729qvx.62.1605636324737; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:05:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5fb33a11.1c69fb81.2d2a6.f92eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <5fb35900.1c69fb81.7679c.a50eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> <20201117061327.GA2478@r314251-amd64> In-Reply-To: <20201117061327.GA2478@r314251-amd64> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 11:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: in -current is svn still canonical? To: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CbDPd6Gv0z3Fb4 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[1]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f32:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:05:26 -0000 On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:13 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa lunes, noviembre 16, 2020 a las 10:32:38p. m. -0700, Warner L= osh > escribi=C3=B3: > > > For the supported stable branches, you'll be able to download via > > subversion and switch over at any time before the end of project suppor= t > > for the branch. > > > > However, when you make the switch to git (either due to the flag day an= d > > tracking -current, or jumping from svn on a stable branch), there's no > tool > > to convert the subversion checked out tree to a git tree. The needed > > information needed to create the git tree isn't easily available from t= he > > subversion checkout, so you'll need to do a git clone. If bandwidth is = a > > problem, you can do a shallow clone that omits all the history and just > > grabs the branch of interest. Git is a bit more link efficient than > > subversion, which is helpful. Git also has ways to help you share one > local > > repo across checked out versions, which can also help if you have to > track > > multiple branches. > > > > > > Warner, please forgive me my nearly off-topic question: When we move to > git, will this conserve all the FreeBSD svn history of ci's somehow? Can > you please point me to a document about FreeBSD's transition from svn to > git? > Yes. The history is preserved. As an aside, we've been exporting a git tree for a while now, but it has so many issues in it that we decided to redo the export to fix them. They weren't apparent in day-to-day grabbing of the sources. However, when you went to do vendor-branch stuff or anything at all complicated, the issues were so bad that we decided to fix them. For docs, I'd start here: https://github.com/bsdimp/freebsd-git-docs/blob/main/mini-primer.md but in general https://github.com/bsdimp/freebsd-git-docs/blob/main/ has interesting docs that I'm working on. These are rough drafts for handbook chapters. Since docs is migrating from DocBook to AsciiDoc, I did them in markdown. Please let me know if there's bits that are missing that would be helpful to add, or drop a pull request if you think you can improve the wording of sections... Warner