From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Jan 9 18:24:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAD7E689AF for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (mx2.enfer-du-nord.net [IPv6:2001:41d0:401:2100::5:8a0e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 348D969850 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 18:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trashcan@ellael.org) Received: from [IPv6:2003:8c:2e04:8901:d5b3:1562:cee8:c489] (p2003008C2E048901D5B31562CEE8C489.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:8c:2e04:8901:d5b3:1562:cee8:c489]) by mx2.enfer-du-nord.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3zGLBb0QlRz4Ks; Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:24:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail.enfer-du-nord.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: 'pkg upgrade -f spamassassin' stops but doesn't restart spamd From: Michael Grimm In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 19:24:04 +0100 Cc: Kevin Oberman Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <76627A89-D7E9-4010-910B-5F25886E7E7E@ellael.org> <5A523873.2050001@quip.cz> To: FreeBSD Ports ML X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.kaan-bock.lan X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:24:22 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 7:10 AM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> = wrote: >> There are no consensus about what services should do on deinstall or >> upgrade. That's why there is such a mess in ports / packages. >> Some did nothing (my preferred way), some stop (but did not start) = the >> service, [=E2=80=A6] > Beg pardon, but I am aware of this being discussed twice on this list = and > both times there was a clear consensus in both cases that it was > unacceptable or a port/package upgrade to touch running daemons. = There > were arguments that some port might make changes in underlying files = that > could break a daemon in some way, though I can't recall any actual = examples. >=20 > The only real argument was that leaving a daemon with a serious > vulnerability running was not acceptable. A competent admin should = never > let this happen, but I'm sure it has. FTR: I have filed PR 225030 on this. Thanks and regards, Michael