From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 11 16:27:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E15CEAE0 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f169.google.com (mail-pd0-f169.google.com [209.85.192.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62561909 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdea3 with SMTP id a3so151798306pde.3 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=mOvrJvfkQ3S6IGIofJD1G8eVAzk2mZ1EsE0jceWCQIQ=; b=N2zJQMIPYJWfmcYXW7FsutOP5kBFdnJINWxq/iGGtMkuNW2UArg7Hpzro/wmF1wxvu WgJiLKzyp+Bmu4Sg5L65uhG6AZkAsOQxdrQfIzxEH0ImfyKVcDJ2cc09Shjtf/B8D5RS 6mP80i0LVGL/BxR5RbDh21tuTgKBUZZq7JdCNXLxCdLHKFRUrlzrRSonAx+lAW22MdqE HL2tP6oz53xXc+PtfgSBqwmH7o7vOYyk4BVWMhhHxt0CF6ijmPY0bKjPQnAuCUMrXZjq W/ehOD9uVyjDvbKpgiTe2+VvR5XZtD9z715inLjjn/ycMi2wEZw3ASmdYu6CxXQxRZ1d XMMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQluCUyxpEdcV/QcmfRL/I7aFIcC2dgieDLXTZZS96ULAp2R/08VkAm+O40S+ghkuOpu4H0/ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.63.1 with SMTP id c1mr20592427pds.90.1431361667917; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.102.99 with HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.102.99 with HTTP; Mon, 11 May 2015 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150511162121.GA89954@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <3137063.YOSa6Au8Xi@ralph.baldwin.cx> <554D1DD5.5080106@FreeBSD.org> <554E2221.1040105@FreeBSD.org> <20150511093100.GC53149@e-new.0x20.net> <20150511161049.GA89855@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20150511162121.GA89954@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 09:27:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS From: Jos Backus Cc: freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 16:27:55 -0000 On May 11, 2015 9:21 AM, "Steve Kargl" wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 09:12:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > >On May 11, 2015 9:10 AM, "Steve Kargl" > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > >>> On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, "Lars Engels" wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: > >>>>> Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make > >>>>> much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations > >>>>> this day and age when better > >>>>> tools are available. Of course, this would require people to learn > >>>>> something new, which I know can be a challenge. > >>>> > >>>> I really like fossil. But it's still under development, so it > >>>> would soon be outdated. It's better installed from ports/packages. > >>> > >>> It seems OpenRCS is still under development ;-p It's better > >>> installed from ports/packages, too. > >>> > >>> It would give Fossil a recognition boost as a BSD-licensed DVCS. > >>> > >> > >> Please, just stop. Thanks. > > > > Like I said, a challenge. > > > > You've completely missed the point. OpenRCS is intended > to replace ancient GNU RCS, which is already included in the > base system and used by a few scripts. Fossil is not a > drop-in replacement for the rcs utilities. I didn't miss anything. My point is that debating to update one piece of obsolete software with another is silly, and that FreeBSD should try to move forward in this area. But that's hard, as your response indicates. This is the last I'll say about this, because it appears the community isn't ready. Have fun with your ancient version control while Linux continues to grow in market share. :-( Jos > So, please just stop. > > PS: Please reply to the list not directly to me. CC stored. > > -- > Steve