From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 09:18:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD6D106567F; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from mailomat.net (mailomat.net [81.20.89.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746EA8FC13; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) X-Mailomat-SpamCatcher-Score: 45 [XX] (100%) BODY: contains pornographic content in caps X-Mailomat-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Received: from [194.39.192.125] (account bnc-mail@mailrelay.mailomat.net HELO bnc.net) by mailomat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTPSA id 47388326; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:18:01 +0200 X-SpamCatcher-Score: 45 [XX] Received: from [194.39.192.126] (account ap HELO wasabi.wlan.bnc.net) by bnc.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTPSA id 3283783; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:17:55 +0200 Message-Id: <3A7C430E-AA1C-4CF3-88F5-F7A0EBE3273A@bnc.net> From: Achim Patzner To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-12-817989714; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:17:54 +0200 References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86y73j341e.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86bq0ftjf6.fsf@ds4.des.no> <8C2BF4B9-14CD-40EA-B22E-DBB7060BFE46@bnc.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav=22?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:18:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail-12-817989714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 31.07.2008 um 02:45 schrieb Carlos A. M. dos Santos: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Achim Patzner wrote: >> I tried to break that habit more than once >> but right now the only comfortable way of running FreeBSD on a laptop >> is VMware Fusion on a Mac. Reading this entire thread convinced me >> even more. > > Please define "comfortable". You just did so: > I never attempted to use neither Bluetooth nor the fingerprint reader > [...] the memory card > reader does not work. I also ran 8.0-CURRENT on a HP 6910p because 7.0 > did not support the WI-FI card. Great Lord. I just opened the box, turned the machine on and - after waiting fo about a few minutes - just began using it. Drivers? Who cares. Serial port? Just plug in an USB-to-serial. Getting X to run on the *censored* *even more censorship*? No problem, it's even launching itself should I really need it. Camera? Built-in. Unix that feels like FreeBSD? Built- in. HSDPA? Just connect the USB modem or plug in the Merlin XU. NO FUCKING INTEL STICKERS TO PEEL OFF. PRICELESS. It's a perfect machine for the desktop; I've forbidden FreeBSD to come creeping out the server room some years ago. I need it for keeping the penguins away, it's really good at that (no wonder - pitchforks do hurt). But it's a pain for desktoppy things - so why shouldn't I use something less useful? And the other way round: Running Mac OS X Server is the most painful thing I've ever been paid for; I've been replacing a lot of them with FreeBSD-based servers. Achim --Apple-Mail-12-817989714--