Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:27:02 -0700 From: Nicolas Galler <beanie@gryphonmud.com> To: Free BSD List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? Message-ID: <20030628212702.GA81342@anoat.phoenix> In-Reply-To: <BB2341B8.11DF9%joepok@ninestar.com> References: <3EFDE51A.30907@potentialtech.com> <BB2341B8.11DF9%joepok@ninestar.com>
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The reason the bsd port takes longer to build is that it has to be compiled first. Redhat uses pre-compiled binaries (the rpm). You can download "packages" under FreeBSD - I like compiling from the ports so that I am certain I get it linked against the right version of the libraries. I used to start a compilation of kde before going on vacation though, it took easily 15 hours on a duron 700. I have switched to fluxbox since, which takes under 5 minutes to compile and install and does what I need :) Nick On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:59:36PM -0800, Joe Pokupec wrote: > Hey Guys, > > Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand > (very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on > them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date feature > on each machine and decided to go back to BSD with a GUI so I could go back > to the trusty, and free ports feature(s)... > > RH9 took less than 15 minutes to install and boot for each machine. It has > the Blue Wave GUI and I would imagine is pretty bloated as well. So, from > this point of view, how can one OS take 15 minutes, while the other take 15 > hours (and counting)? > > The machines are Pentium II, 333Mhz and 400 Mhz units (both are Dells). Each > machine has 256 Megs of RAM, and one of the machines has a 60 gig drive... > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > Joe Pokupec wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install > >> (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: > > > > What are these machines? Processor? RAM? > > > >> make install clean after reading tfm. > >> > >> The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the text > >> is scrolling by... On both machines... > >> > >> Is there something I should know? > > > > Yes, KDE is big ... Huge ... Like ... try to imagine more code than you > > could ever imagine, and KDE might actually be bigger than that. See ... > > if you took the empire state building and put the statue of liberty on top > > of it and put them both underneath the New River Gorge Bridge, the space > > left over wouldn't be as big as KDE. If you took all the code in KDE and > > laid it end to end it would reach all the way to the sun, catch on fire and > > burn your house down (although it would take 8 minutes for the fire to get > > from the sun to your house, so you'd probably be able to get out in time) > > > > The upshot is that KDE could easily take several days to compile if you're > > dealing with less than hefty hardware. Let us know the details of the > > hardware and we'll make some guesses on how long it should take to compile. > > > >> I can re-install 5.1, 5.0, or any version on these machines if necessary, > >> but I'm somewhat curious about this huge length of install time... > > > > I doubt the version of FreeBSD is the cause. Use ALT+F2 to switch to > > another console on one of the machines and run "top" to get an idea of > > what's causing the problem. If the build process is causing a lot of > > swapping, it's probably going to take 6 or 7 years for KDE to build. > > > > <disclaimer> > > I am not an insurance salesman, if your house burns down due to anything > > you've read in this email, I make no guarantees that your homeowner's > > policy will cover it. > > I'm also not responsible for personal injury or damage to the statue of > > liberty caused by trying to balance it on top of the empire state building. > > (I still say that damn thing sways when the wind blows!) > > Do not try this at home. Offer void where prohibited. > > </disclaimer> > > > > -- > > Bill Moran > > Potential Technologies > > http://www.potentialtech.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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