From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 5 16:30:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6239037B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [216.187.105.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15BD43E65 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D443C3F28; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Ross Lippert Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:32:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: docs/41106: FreeBSD Handbook lacks "Desktop Applications" chapter. Cc: dan@langille.org, anderson@centtech.com, cjuniet@entreview.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3D4ED2C3.3895.145B35EE@localhost> In-reply-to: <200208052102.OAA11338@eskimo.com> References: <3D4EA926.8190.13B8AA06@localhost> (dan@langille.org) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have attempted to trim the CC: list to those I know are on docs. On 5 Aug 2002 at 14:02, Ross Lippert wrote: > Freshports has definitely been a value-add that has proven its > longevity. > > >FWIW: users have talked about commenting on the ports. I think > >they'd take to it like wild fire. > So with comments, we're talking about threaded comments of some sort > on the port? > > There is a funny thing about threaded lists and articles. An article > gets written. People respond. A few responses after an article can > add a lot of value to the article. A thousand responses after an > article can be bewildering. But, at that point, you probably have > enough info in the comments to condense them in version 2 of the > article (and perhaps make new articles) and the process starts again. > This is a pretty natural way to do things. > > I think it requires two kinds of responses. The first is the set of > comments, which are unstructured, moderated, but not editted. The > next is the article, which condenses the comments, which is moderated, > editted, with a consistent structure. > > Perhaps, on FreshPorts, there could be comments with a TTL and > articles with a bigger TTL. Things in comment space are quickly > moderated for spam or other evil and posted. Things in article space > are reviewed for tags, language, and maybe even accuracy before being > placed, at which point the corresponding author(s) on the article are > obligated to receive all subsequent comments made (and we trust they > do not /dev/null them). > > I think that generally the guidelines for the articles should be > similar to what we've been discussing. I'd hate to see a "Why I hate > windowmaker" as an article. > > Maybe my previous article on time-tables and whatnot isn't necessary > if Freshports is the obvious way to go. Maybe, we could still do the > prototype and possibly use the resulting articles as seeds for the > comment-->article-->comment cycle? I have spent 10 minutes putting together a partially-functioning prototype. See http://www.freshports.org/tmp/databases/postgresql7/ (and yes, the links to more commits and more comments will work). Is this what was you thought about? -- Dan Langille I'm looking for a computer job: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message