From owner-freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org Wed Jun 29 07:07:18 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-xfce@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEF6B86EF7 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46BFC2EE6; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from woodsb02@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id v199so167197110wmv.0; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=E0sjby2Z7V0Lgw990RyLLA9vgLTT4WCxezogepRQ/N8=; b=B/7um2DY/XxyrSUcOLP19EkTJDMwq5zFJwDR5M9eZzl73U7WtcjlQ6YsTfbq55GOKL TP2+H6Ct4O2CTNn/yrDoig4hRLe067Qu3O17Ve37vOskLwBDT6kPbkOddZBs5IlTXTAO 4spZlneO+LZ4hcwILOu5ySaFL+yUatGFTN3F9qqQc3mYX7Kgl+2Caus29m+Jvq1kUviS 1JuuaurzEU+dvxB5Tsbnr4qNkjyppE1J5VMsnBU5NaizzrXXyyhLRKi4jQrW6aUU/KWT fhXazI76AUBmd5zhUVaTYZpOCEmv6vTqgZfECcU7TvdK1+SY+I1pIXDvGONtAghk27cj NsRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=E0sjby2Z7V0Lgw990RyLLA9vgLTT4WCxezogepRQ/N8=; b=Uug3YEyw/bXo2jtjNplqFKdd0rtRP306U+3g3G1fi2fylTRwNYXQ7/8giAbHw+VZd2 ra1yjpM43a/P+3DpuZR7M8xEyERi2gTy5IUCPKGxsy7NwRUqs4p5RUnSugPMU/ykMShS 6XKjODwSu3zH2SG01SqEwl+smJhqSQwxt/en1Ci2UN6MmZ9tnUwIxZkWBmeN3DW3jVAY bDjJgLHn2Pvd+21wsvcJ0eKUyXvQRXIjlETYglasAfGQhw+J34UXVWvARF9e+iG4CNxx QLhS3hmxyFKitNx9wx617rR0gKwOIMiNimW5cg7Yxq8/W5u0shzyeNp0hdczJyH6ca2D S1uA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJZu3CDAtwALTIsVzRiswfQ+PD8hV2TfXpoZ5551SmWqHaZl+TMNl4knT7C/j47bcXjr70H+RYAYWdj4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.80.106 with SMTP id q10mr6717539wjx.155.1467184036743; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.116.193 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160628233111.b37cf7b18f511a288421b1ef@freebsd.org> References: <20160628233111.b37cf7b18f511a288421b1ef@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:07:16 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Meta-port for Goodies From: Ben Woods To: Olivier Duchateau Cc: "freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-xfce@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: XFCE for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:07:18 -0000 On Wednesday, 29 June 2016, Olivier Duchateau wrote: > > Not yet review your changes. Personally I'm against (but I'm open with > good arguments, or wait the 4.14 release at least). FreeBSD is not a Linux > distro (this is recurring requets). > In the past, plugins were not well maintained (switch from 4.8 to 4.10 was > painful). > > Moreover in ports tree some plugins and applications are obsolete or > "broken": > > - xfce4-mixer (not anymore maintained by upstream), that's why it's > development version in ports tree > - xfce4-print (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - libxfce4gui (considered obsolete by upstream), replaced by libxfce4menu > and libxfce4utils > - xfce4-dashboard is broken, it's Clutter's problem (even new stable > release, 0.6.0 [1]) > - xfce4-wm-themes (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - thunar-vfs (not anymore maintained by upstream) > - squeeze (no update since 8 years) > - xfce4-notification-daemon should be removed (xfce4-notifyd is the only > notification daemon supported by upstream) > > Vala bindings is not in good shape (it's not your fault). > > xfce4-dev-tools is part of Xfce core (it is required if you want to build > sources from git clones. It contains M4 macros for autoconf). > > Neverless I think for the 4.14 it will be fine, with GTK+3 migration, some > unmaintained plugins will be removed and ports tree clean up. > > Note: Migration to GTK+3 is coming, the Xfce devel repo already contains > the latest unstable releases, and it is up-to-date. > > Regards, > > [1] https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-xfce/2016-May/001353.html > Hi Olivier, Thanks for the reply. For me, each of your comments is EXACTLY why I would like to see this goodies port. This is where the xfce@ team can set which options are enabled to decide which ports which be installed on most user's desktop. Documenting the state of xfce ports is good, maintaining the goodies port so that only the working, maintained and recommended ports are automatically installed is even better! Regards, Ben -- -- From: Benjamin Woods woodsb02@gmail.com