From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 19 20:46: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B1937B400 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90F43E5E for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 20:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.3/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6K3jiqw017054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:45:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g6K3jise017051; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:45:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200207200345.g6K3jise017051@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Rik van Riel Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another go at bandwidth delay product pipeline limiting for TCP In-Reply-To: References: <200207200245.g6K2jHOh081549@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Absolutely. On my DSL things work best when I limit myself > to 220 kbit/s down (from the maximum 256 kbit/s), or about > 85% of the bandwidth. That is hardly surprising. In fact, that is a well-known result of Queueing Theory. It is impossible to achive better than 85-90% utilization in the presence of appreciable non-scheduled traffic competing for the same channel. (That's a big part of why protocols like ATM were designed to require everything to go through admission control and shaping: otherwise you can't make tight guarantees of latency and drop rates while still maximizing channel utilization.) -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message