From owner-freebsd-security Wed Sep 29 7: 4:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D7914EFC for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA24527; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:04:16 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda24525; Wed Sep 29 07:03:58 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA31344; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909291403.HAA31344@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdr31340; Wed Sep 29 07:03:02 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Mark Newton Cc: scott@computeralt.com (Scott I. Remick), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:42:01 +0930." <199909280012.JAA13329@atdot.dotat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:03:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199909280012.JAA13329@atdot.dotat.org>, Mark Newton writes: > Scott I. Remick wrote: > > > Any advice to a small-time network admin for a small (32 employees) compan > y > > that is stuck in the MS_WAY = ONLY_WAY mindset? We are overdue for a > > firewall but the PHB wants NT/MS-Proxy installed, while I'm arguing for > > FreeBSD/ipfw instead. > > Go in after work one night and install FreeBSD. Once your firewall > is a fait accomplis, inertia will help you get your way. Remember the old axiom: It's easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Sun/DEC Team, UNIX Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message