From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 15 14:03:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875B216A4C8 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2B2643D6B for ; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:03:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 74480 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2006 14:03:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pmQf18W3TJGiDo03XxMpGfB1je854Zyx19se5uaSr52l+IveiO5k5wMH+9/ypZ6QjcHGRkN0k0sz5Kv6NLq4HdEjg1I6oJ90OFoNGSfs6m30G3D24Ia6XSfQXRK6bz3D8m8vtXsERj4IWza86YBpCSqZNfIaeoeO3MWiS0Q/bSE= ; Message-ID: <20061015140304.74478.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.34.182.15] by web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:03:04 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Danial Thom To: Mike Horwath In-Reply-To: <20061014211914.GA79862@Geeks.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tec@mega.net.br, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Performance 4.x vs. 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 14:03:06 -0000 --- Mike Horwath wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:02PM -0700, > Danial Thom wrote: > > You should try the new 10K WD drives (the > ones that just came > > out). They kick butt. Unfortunately, I'd > have to use FreeBSD 6 to > > use them, so I have to stick with SCSI on 4.x > to get maximum > > performance. > > You are so completely wrong. > > The 10K WD disks are fully usuable under > FreeBSD 4.x. > > In fact, I have more than 8 systems doing such, > using 10K WD Raptor > drives and FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE. > > Where do people come up with these statements? We come from Earth; we're just more informed. The WD740ADFD's do NOT work on Freebsd 4.x. I'm sure you are talking about the WD740GD. I DID say the NEW ones. They are a lot faster than the GDs. I used them with FreeBSD 4.x with an Areca SATA card and they performed similarly to 15K Fujitsu SCSIs on a heavily loaded squid system. Also when you are using a SATA drive that *works* in 4.x its running in some reduced transfer mode, so you can't expect to get optimal performance or anything close. So "works" is almost a euphemism for "doesn't barf", but they don't really work well no matter how good the drive is. For my needs, its cheaper to go with SCSI than to buy the sata card as there's only about a $250. difference in the SCSI hardware, and I don't use up my slot. Hence, the silliness of operating in the FreeBSD camp. Note that the drives work with 6.x but squid performance doesn't measure up, so again, 4.x with SCSI is the best bang for the buck choice. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com