From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Mar 25 22:03:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C6FF43FB8 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@peek.org) Received: from mail-yw0-f174.google.com (mail-yw0-f174.google.com [209.85.161.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EBB27C23D for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@peek.org) Received: by mail-yw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id i187so306504ywd.10 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zkuxXbd5UB5mzCZrHS/mZ68jjIEaTPHS+VexKfx6Zko=; b=NpRPlKpquyEC8hEl7PngLtWAfUEPl1nL5Ju+uZEYIcPPwEpe3DMx2y2DX0V6Bl6GVn hkWiahKm1rPEjExGYkqzfY9LRLpeljFKQxbHtOHya5wjyWvVCIE2dlxT+HxYPpobzlaI qwn4GJFmktFbA+YAjxKv5koDzHGCkGdC+bdXFfOmGMLxM9Y1oa/a+HMezJ+3DJxDy3F0 LdaWkVZvNYCJaV7GEirEXCgdjm96Rs0mt8wx2g+jB23D3kSYRfr2wTKfZsLggwN+R4bj QY3kvXNQMU4MfhVWJjqJD8BMDgORCEaf2lMYynHiaO97k6PPBwB3SZCAQwTtrxsPhB// tpEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FHZyLCD8G5h/ChfSC1vadqvUTFQEqT8t8/fy6brG2MZuPHbFSi iNqb5PyPD9WZrydIfkXbKb7glqp4/i8ydA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELvj3uLV+qGUhytd0s2VGIIU6V7eJjr+asi7VxXmEWMkI+ZfN8hQh3M7qbGLx7Yymze0ji074Q== X-Received: by 10.129.87.75 with SMTP id l72mr22431934ywb.216.1522015423041; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f179.google.com (mail-yw0-f179.google.com. [209.85.161.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q11sm5439225ywc.106.2018.03.25.15.03.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id y64so5576521ywa.3 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.129.146.195 with SMTP id j186mr22517523ywg.294.1522015422181; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:4206:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2601:646:c700:35ed:2193:d6c4:780d:4bcb] In-Reply-To: <201803252101.w2PL1HpJ043800@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201803252101.w2PL1HpJ043800@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Mark Peek Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:03:41 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r331510 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/vmware/vmci sys/modules/vmware sys/modules/vmware/vmci To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Warner Losh , Benjamin Kaduk , Pedro Giffuni , Mark Peek , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:03:44 -0000 On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > > On Mar 25, 2018 1:09 PM, "Benjamin Kaduk" wrote: > > > > I am surprised that no one has yet quoted the commit message from r325966 > > when the first SPDX tags appear to have been added to base: > > > > We are gradually adopting the specification, noting > > that the tags are considered only advisory and do not, in any way, > > superceed or replace the license texts. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Here a SPDX tag is being used to stand in place, ie replace, the > license text. > > > (There was also some internal discussion around the same time, which I of > > course cannot quote here.) > > > > > > > > Right. For cases where both are present, the text controls. But when it's > > just there alone, there is no ambiguity. > > There is ambiguity, as your replacing the license text with a tag in > direct conflict with the documented status of SPDX tags. > That is a HUGE ambiguity. > > Your also creating a small handful of files that seem to be in conflict > with the projects standard MO for 25 years. > > Now, if you want to take this change to @developers as a proposal, and > actually get legal advice on the aspects of this, I am all ears, but please > do not just go making decisions that are contray to current practice > without that. As this may require a legal opinion and clarification I have asked on core@ rather than further discussion here or on the developers list. Mark