From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 19 21:55:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8C71065701 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5021C8FC20 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2011 21:42:51 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.24] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2011 21:42:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2011 21:42:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 689898.28758.bm@omp1024.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10889 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jun 2011 21:42:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1308519771; bh=Po7CL6H4g5NTrCcW0QaHWXig/oXQq74R/AoGF6n2a9o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yds6mFonNa0uuIhIHhQzh4ne9FgcVtvxMXnkqd+nDR27I6uD/XM3Ix6/82vg7J3NjvEZzy26ITE2qARjEvlyCnrq5GKLL1NdwJGa8qaLGoXnnSeEGjxK0i1gf4L0ZXdWYwrd35yWdT05IrLzosgAPH3/esrNCt/dRJdTRe2YzAA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dEx9dt6VTxK+AiTuGbG8oqrn7TRLievPFUNAlFM7gpHmByODvtKY3/c9fUdz+hlXyw/DlCXVLvmo3YklI0DrR3uJwReb6JOwLWjGlxOZRkvfHl9DIcORidP81kU2Hkrw6pwz/CmyQKDXpokPD1UOaVFdxiKtIcQbj1TAoxg5ogM=; Message-ID: <179528.87578.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pClgVFQVM1mH19wfFDI06nQNA0s1mJ6uNM2jgQf4pineiGN iB_X7qopRQPwEjCf8fQ7_two052fEr6mAmuAQLrm_0.ujZ_shOGAOPE8qaXa h98DJVcK4M0Tcwg5whbAMXrKMSHb1s9iffUI0JLXBYENh.z9_7zYbKG9dw.u O9BaHnMuINeJ9dP9SKXrJ63ZX3jR7UL9dYWLiyGRju2uHM25C.2MV9zbwoQp g4Rbi3uzECn.0UyEt_GZnb11Yy1Shaq0vrgm6mWrFRb76Zfunsd23wFCUgJa 4lIcRgaCzhDt_Y_z6FxdbYNdD_7N8L8fBGcssz28INCZ.yoOmDx6q0LLBPdA p4MBtQnGp6FoyDS.uzVxiYAaz6VH2cB3DqUq93BfnFgMJ5cjSQdhkF3g- Received: from [76.108.201.66] by web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:42:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <4DFCDE25.2050203@rawbw.com> <20110618180326.GA21890@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4DFD01B9.5010807@rawbw.com> <20110618212315.GB21890@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110619072518.2115dffb@scorpio> <20110619112248.7c879c1f@scorpio> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Any working SIP-phone on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:55:41 -0000 Wow. this thread really took a turn for the worse. So getting back to the m= ain =0Atopic about SIP phones, I have been using SIP phones since 2006 and = I never =0Afound anything that worked under FreeBSD. Mainly for this reason= and this reason =0Aseems to mirror where this thread went off topic.=0A=0A= While I could make something work on my end, because I'm a hobbyist, I coul= d not =0Aget my friends, family, co-workers, customers, etc... to make anyt= hing work, =0Aeven in the M$ environment. The main reason is that hackers i= n this world have =0Acaused all of us to in one way or another deploy firew= alls. And I would say that =0A99% of the non-hobbyists out there don't have= a clue how to configure their =0Afirewall, indeed many of them don't even = know they have one working. Whether =0Ait's M$ built-in firewall or the fir= ewall on their ISP supplied router/modem, or =0Athe hotel they are staying = at is blocking SIP ports. Unless you can get the =0Aperson on the other end= to receive your phone call then very little works. Which =0Ais a real sham= e because as a hobbyist I have done some really neat things with =0ASIP pho= nes, Asterisk, not to mention VPN and other packages. But without another = =0Ahobbyist on the other end, its proved more than impossible to get things= working =0Awhich I could really use on a daily basis.=0A=0AOh and just in = case...I use Asterisk on FreeBSD-8.2-STABLE as my PBX for my =0Aprivate=A0h= ome office. I connect via SIP with a VOIP provider who provides not =0Aonly= phone service but a DID as well. I use SIP phones (actual phones, not =0As= oftware) to make my SOHO appear to be a=A0professional corporate office wit= h =0Atransfers, conference calls, Music on hold, voice mail, the works. I = =0Aoccassionally use an IAX softphone or SIP softphone program on Windows t= o make =0Aand receive calls but for the most part I use the actual phones. = Several friends =0Aand family members have asked me to set them up similarl= y but unless I could =0Amake it totally handsfree for them there is no way = it will ever work, simply =0Abecause they are not hobbyists like me and hav= e no desire to do anything but =0Aclick a big button on their desktop which= looks like a phone. Anything beyond =0Athat and you're into the realm of i= mpossible....again.