From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Oct 24 21:54:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2AE10714F2 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x143.google.com (mail-lf1-x143.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B62AD7BB33; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x143.google.com with SMTP id n3-v6so5180977lfe.7; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:54:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sj6F8dCT1yxo5eVISkVkmV/tk/QF4CNmmmlJjANdqPo=; b=rtmpeyUFvK+pfLgukcwmit6ihYSmQ+qSoIRVPI3HYjV5IK+J+QsLMMfarqpfN8uZCb wgTwGoa67HFNYUoQsCwbYWWLeXmBcdItBdxAxdwd7POnbDl5K855Ca3e5kllRAfyi0nm l8SyzQaibc93aa81ER+TltKYMFxEEJgYQhBKxQWzYkJsXuNLDsa/tm5H/iLmodTOhpTY EJ+N6HAxEmohOzUlXs/Gcx3FIEb3QWlPpJO76ebYOXWSbSN0ucXJFVwVo4K3SOKAzaES uzlmGcG+FoQNDSmML3vmgzoy+Q7jJNoTBBEqeQod5/H6AixiXBeo0BdHzODRzL/64DMM E4uQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sj6F8dCT1yxo5eVISkVkmV/tk/QF4CNmmmlJjANdqPo=; b=hAdsO7hjYNwCX6yjdSp1x6OZlHWTcbzOEsedH0p54RA4Klp9VXXg6dmCO3qy+Bitez biKzdkyDUxRgQkdBvPzwTfA6PLEDn40mvl7GztfwELru4Vz7io3GkUAuOEQGo8PJnX4w CySxHItn9iwT/Q4o0qvB2nUvNzy0sz8VRe67ff52Tt5OR9eWrJ9J2F88aKJIQ4iQQS29 BdAQu2tnXl4kEwStItZXklzZD3mQGSia+tkl4j6pj7ISxmlcnnnWthh1e+IL0meHkscY 1hHaj160SaAFU+//6JLyflio9qbRlCIH48w9iQM3/mazYZgNIdpGKbNJsbFUXl6b4YYW AGNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLypLV32szM+BUpXe9i2HguLm0mihiHLcwlmRsKcN75cwupTU0M /xwCspMpjUvp8hpGn7GZT28= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fb6yFR1KBCW6uRHUNF+tKPS0MHzX3CGlzPC+WPChMSXT1zTE9kpv8OIkiLflqlvIJnDb33lA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:c396:: with SMTP id t144mr56021lff.110.1540418073091; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2001:470:1f15:3d8:7285:c2ff:fe37:5722]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10-v6sm399056lfj.50.2018.10.24.14.54.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Rozhuk Ivan X-Google-Original-From: Rozhuk Ivan Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:54:29 +0300 To: Robert Cc: Mark Millard , FreeBSD , Mark Johnston Subject: Re: Sudden grow of memory in "Laundry" state Message-ID: <20181025005429.597e9066@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <55b0dd7d-19a3-b566-0602-762b783e8ff3@gmail.com> <20180911005411.GF2849@raichu> <20180911150849.GD92634@raichu> <104be96a-c16b-7e7c-7d0d-00338ab5a106@gmail.com> <20180928152550.GA3609@raichu> <20181024211237.302b72d9@gmail.com> <981C887D-78EB-46D2-AEE5-877E269AF066@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 21:54:35 -0000 On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:25:48 -0700 Robert wrote: > My question is: what else (except mmap) may reduce "Free" memory and > increase "Laundry"\"Swap" in the system? > FreeBSD mem usage is at least "strange". I got 32GB installed, sum of RSS runnig programs ~16GB. Why system use swap? If there is no swap then system some times freezes because cant allocate mem. WTF!? Before FreeBSD I use win 7 on system with 16GB, and same software: firefox + vbox. I do not use swap, and in same use cases I got ~half free memory. Probably now same software consume more mem, let x2 = 16BG, but where is another 16GB free ram!?