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[73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f15sm4788174pfq.100.2020.04.11.14.32.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: Ars Technica article on FreeBSD new user experience From: Enji Cooper In-Reply-To: <20200411004620.GL4213@funkthat.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:32:36 -0700 Cc: Kyle Evans , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7E83538A-9360-4B0D-9190-6E3A675C53DD@gmail.com> References: <20200410061248.GK4213@funkthat.com> <20200411004620.GL4213@funkthat.com> To: John-Mark Gurney X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4907QH5cPwz48mB X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=SEteJfd+; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of yaneurabeya@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=yaneurabeya@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[228.52.19.73.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-8.84), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:32:41 -0000 > On Apr 10, 2020, at 5:46 PM, John-Mark Gurney = wrote: >=20 > Kyle Evans wrote this message on Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 09:49 -0500: =E2=80=A6 >> My memory here is incredibly hazy, it may be that I was scarred by >> history not persisting at all across sessions or something like this; >> I quickly installed zsh and never looked back. >=20 > Yeah, history isn't kept by default, not sure if there's an option to > keep it, if there is, I don't see it in the man page, and ctrl-r = doesn't > work either. There is history support, but it=E2=80=99s not on by default and = it=E2=80=99s not spelled the same way as other shells (I don=E2=80=99t = think it=E2=80=99s persistent between shell invocations, however): The following variables affect the execution of fc: FCEDIT Name of the editor to use for history = editing. HISTSIZE The number of previous commands that are accessible. Given that the only other base system shell option is csh, I opt = out of both and always install bash (I haven=E2=80=99t quite jumped on = the zsh train yet). Thanks, -Enji=