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Date:      Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:27:42 -0800 (PST)
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@hub.freebsd.org>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Dan Moschuk <dan@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org, audit@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/conf files.i386 src/sys/kern kern_fork.c src/sys/libkern arc4random.c src/sys/sys libkern.h
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.9911291319580.51314-100000@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <199911292104.NAA09106@apollo.backplane.com>

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On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:

>     Hi Dan.  Is it possible that we could adjust this feature to be enabled
>     with a config option?  It seems to add a considerable amount of bulk to
>     the kernel that's deadweight for the people not using it.

This raises some larger architectural issues which probably should be
dealt with. Namely:

* Changes which tighten security are arguably only useful if they're on by
default, otherwise all the newbies will leave them off, and have
(relatively speaking) insecure boxes.

* Just what is the "scope" of the auditing project under which this change
(and many others to come) falls? In other words, how much security do we
(FreeBSD) want, and at what expense? Some of the OpenBSD changes have
demonstrable security benefits, but they also carry a performance penalty.

* Is adding a few bytes to the kernel size really an issue compared to the
complexity of having 20 different config options to include/exclude
various kernel security features?

Personally, I'm quite happy with a policy of "include everything which
doesn't have a large performance hit, by default, and have the rest
defaulting to 'off' with a trivial way for people to turn it on", but
maybe that's just me being a security weenie :-)

Kris





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