From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 17 02:03:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C02DBBC0F6 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from sender163-mail.zoho.com (sender163-mail.zoho.com [74.201.84.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B7B81CAB for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mmacy@nextbsd.org) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1471399395770600.4780871456195; Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:03:15 -0700 From: Matthew Macy To: "Manish Jain" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <156963d0171.ff86a6da332445.6642182102591620790@nextbsd.org> In-Reply-To: References: <15686428786.10af5398f142319.7100122471836056990@nextbsd.org> <15686971b22.110f0f7cd143003.6829482450944171504@nextbsd.org> Subject: Re: Any chance for ATI Radeon 8470 HD graphics ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 02:03:19 -0000 ---- On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:47:57 -0700 Manish Jain wrote ---- > On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Matthew Macy wrote: > It's certainly worth a try. And it's most likely to work if driven by someone with a dog in that fight. > > I have never a run a mail server or a web server, but am willing to get my hands dirty to get a mailing list and hardware compatibility website running for freebsd. > As for your idea about trying PC-BSD, it was a good idea. I tried it, but PC-BSD is still not in sync with FreeBSD to the extent I could have stayed with it. I had serious problems with pkg - hundreds of warnings crop up when trying to install packages, because some packages want version 1.6.1 while, some others want 1.6.4, while FreeBSD version of pkg is 1.8.7. It looks to me like PC-BSD packages are fairly downstream, probably from FreeBSD 10.0. I was even willing to delete everything with pkg delete -a, and build everything from sources if needed. But one final straw remained - radeon driver under PC-BSD is essentially as downstream as FreeBSD. Gnome craps out entirely with streaks and missing text/icons. But KDE mostly works (except for glitches under thunderbird , chrome and KDE special effects called desktop effects). Video playback under KDE smplayer is perfect. > That gave me this idea - return to FreeBSD with dual desktop environments. I now run Gnome under the vesa driver, and when I need to play videos, I reboot into KDE with the radeon driver. This works like a charm. Under Gnome, I can even run virtaulbox with graphics running smoothly under my Windows XP (32 bit) vm. All in all, I have managed to achieve what I set out as a target - only FreeBSD as the physical machine. > For the same of experimentation, I copied out PC-BSD's /boot/kernel/radeon* driver files, and replaced my FreeBSD files with those. This does not have any positive/adverse effect. > I am left with one more reinstallation task. When FreeBSD radeon becomes upstream, I will reinstall FreeBSD. Would a fresh installation be absolutely essential, or can I try just replacing /boot/kernel/radeon* files ? If you/someone can give me an experimental version of an upstream radeon driver, I can try out those and report back results. > Thanks for your help. Manish Jain I can't comment on the installation issue. The radeon and amdgpu drivers in drm-next do not work at this moment. I will post to -x11 and -current when they work well enough that users should be trying them. -M