From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 12 12:31:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA29975 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aviion.ts.kiev.ua (aviion.ts.kiev.ua [193.124.229.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29970 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbki.ipri.kiev.ua by aviion.ts.kiev.ua with ESMTP id SAA17411; (8.6.11/zah/2.1) Mon, 12 May 1997 18:09:19 GMT Received: from cki.ipri.kiev.ua by nbki.ipri.kiev.ua with ESMTP id SAA01257; (8.6.9/zah/1.1) Mon, 12 May 1997 18:01:02 +0100 Received: from 194.44.146.14 (mac.ipri.kiev.ua [194.44.146.14]) by cki.ipri.kiev.ua (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00571; Mon, 12 May 1997 18:12:18 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <33772548.5D88@cki.ipri.kiev.ua> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:13:06 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@cki.ipri.kiev.ua Organization: IPRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, chuckr@mat.net, moore@WOLFENET.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: g++ shared library segfaults References: <199705101933.MAA04308@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Qt looks pretty good to me replace it by something better and I will > > > consider it. > > > > I thought we were talking about document prep systems - now we're > > evaluating GUI toolkits on their own, independant merit? I'm > > confused. :-) > > Don't be so quick to judge. > > I wanted a single UI program to talk to command line administration > programs that obeyed a given set of interactor semantics. So I wrote > a set of command line tools for administering user accounts... all > the whistles -- UID, GID, renaming, renumbering, relocation of account > directories, etc., etc.. > > The idea was to have user tools, disk management tools, service > administration tools, etc.. Basically, an NT 4.0 type UI for UNIX, > with about 15-20 actual programs backing it. > > Then I came up with an interactor grammar for talking to the command > line utilities -- command line options and statting of stdin to see > if it was a pipe, etc., etc.. > > Then I started writing an X based UI, but decided that the only way > it would ever fly is if the UI had a standard look and feel, and the > closest thing UNIX has to a standard is Motif. may be for such GUI better tcl/tk ? > > So I started writing a Motif clone to support the X based UI (it now > runs all of the Young sample code pixel-for-pixel identically to the > real Motif, but isn't quite there yet, and it looks like ELF is > finally going to remove my objections to LGPL, so I haven't hacked > on it in six months). ? I look in LessTiff, and I think it must be work well during few month. > > I basically work on any of these pieces when I want something fun to > hack on. Keep enough projects going, and there's always *something* > fun to hack on. FS internals books, serial communications books, > C code, C++ code, artwork, etc.. I personally have 136 cataloged > projects, and more miscellaneous things than I can count. I guess > I'm a dataflow machine? 8-). > > Anyway, it keeps you sane for your day job. > I also think about GUI interfases in such style, with 3 independent layers 1(UI Intyerfaces --> 2 program interfases (coomand-line utilities and corresponding text files) 3 remote configuration for local net, from base conf, such as cfengine, support configuration of external hardware (dechubs in my case) And of course, It is interesting but no time. > So I definitely understand his digression, and the motivation for the > overall project. 8-). > > Regards, > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers.