From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:49:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71023106566C for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAAD8FC12 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9so3103892gxk.13 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:49:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F4yRDK6kXvlWXDol7celTXWyzg5hrOWhkAizJ1lalk0=; b=JPaOTe1SFBcZuahAxZV33tyuVmNsYv4NLop1YG7GwkbAv+gwGnvaxz+OSErLwsWnak qT+gkJznaJtr2HqDdpM5bpS/0xCKB87jPnic1ZBDePpJmBfaheTwQinH5WBG74aUoc7t D6z8JjfJjgRCHi3Eeqtc8jqtvXvBZz/7/jKuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=inTAnAFmP3W+w9Nhcy9GxfwTsXl5KTOJrh39/qsC1garStdWPh3RRzRguyWeBcZ9UY 9KJ5Clty57RmspTJv5SPmiENmE40fZ633+LQn/jn19fQd0z2x1Mxx0Y3957tGgxisgrM k8SfUQ/8+Btdm8bMNiO2Sv+8bPwGK7ExrTrlg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.14.8 with SMTP id 8mr4356908ann.65.1289832595024; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:49:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.62.74 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:49:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <350357563-1289691142-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-189470517-@bda115.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:49:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: dalescott@shaw.ca, FreeBSD Mailing List , fsb@thefsb.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Fwd: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:49:56 -0000 For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is you can size the "hardware" to fit your needs and not get any more then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU, Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept. and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party apps, our custom made code, etc.... Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is twice the cost almost]) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tom Worster Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could To: dalescott@shaw.ca Cc: FreeBSD On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, "dalescott@shaw.ca" wrote: >> but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does. > >What do feel are the advantages of the cloud? i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type). the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm. in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated hosts. and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin (there's a lot less to a cloud server "slice" than a whole computer), monitoring, persistence. does this begin to answer your question? this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"