From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 28 14:33:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DC337B401 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D35343FA3 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 14:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ej.cerejo@laposte.net) Received: from laposte.net ([151.198.151.135]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20030628213352.OUPW4805.out003.verizon.net@laposte.net>; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:33:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3EFE09B3.9010304@laposte.net> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:33:39 -0400 From: "E. J. Cerejo" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Pokupec References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [151.198.151.135] at Sat, 28 Jun 2003 16:33:52 -0500 cc: Free BSD List Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 21:33:55 -0000 KDE is not part of Freebsd! I takes about 5 minutes to install FBSD on my machine! If you're referring to kde taking so long to install, it's because it has to build first from source. If you were to install kde from source in RH9 I'm sure it would take that much time also. The reason it installs fast in RH9 is because it installs from a binary file (which is already compiled), you can also install kde in less than 10 minutes in FreeBSD if you use the package system, just use /stand/sysinstall or pkg_add, read the section on it on the handbook. Joe Pokupec wrote: >Hey Guys, > >Thanks for your input and explanations. Here's the part I don't understand >(very simplistic view). Both machines previously had Red Hat 9 installed on >them. I decided that I didn't want to pay Red Hat for their up2date feature >on each machine and decided to go back to BSD with a GUI so I could go back >to the trusty, and free ports feature(s)... > >RH9 took less than 15 minutes to install and boot for each machine. It has >the Blue Wave GUI and I would imagine is pretty bloated as well. So, from >this point of view, how can one OS take 15 minutes, while the other take 15 >hours (and counting)? > >The machines are Pentium II, 333Mhz and 400 Mhz units (both are Dells). Each >machine has 256 Megs of RAM, and one of the machines has a 60 gig drive... > >Thanks > >Joe > > > > >>Joe Pokupec wrote: >> >> >>>Hi All, >>> >>>I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install >>>(which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: >>> >>> >>What are these machines? Processor? RAM? >> >> >> >>>make install clean after reading tfm. >>> >>>The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the text >>>is scrolling by... On both machines... >>> >>>Is there something I should know? >>> >>> >>Yes, KDE is big ... Huge ... Like ... try to imagine more code than you >>could ever imagine, and KDE might actually be bigger than that. See ... >>if you took the empire state building and put the statue of liberty on top >>of it and put them both underneath the New River Gorge Bridge, the space >>left over wouldn't be as big as KDE. If you took all the code in KDE and >>laid it end to end it would reach all the way to the sun, catch on fire and >>burn your house down (although it would take 8 minutes for the fire to get >>from the sun to your house, so you'd probably be able to get out in time) >> >>The upshot is that KDE could easily take several days to compile if you're >>dealing with less than hefty hardware. Let us know the details of the >>hardware and we'll make some guesses on how long it should take to compile. >> >> >> >>>I can re-install 5.1, 5.0, or any version on these machines if necessary, >>>but I'm somewhat curious about this huge length of install time... >>> >>> >>I doubt the version of FreeBSD is the cause. Use ALT+F2 to switch to >>another console on one of the machines and run "top" to get an idea of >>what's causing the problem. If the build process is causing a lot of >>swapping, it's probably going to take 6 or 7 years for KDE to build. >> >> >>I am not an insurance salesman, if your house burns down due to anything >>you've read in this email, I make no guarantees that your homeowner's >>policy will cover it. >>I'm also not responsible for personal injury or damage to the statue of >>liberty caused by trying to balance it on top of the empire state building. >>(I still say that damn thing sways when the wind blows!) >>Do not try this at home. Offer void where prohibited. >> >> >>-- >>Bill Moran >>Potential Technologies >>http://www.potentialtech.com >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >